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413–33
- President Richard M. Nixon
- H. R. Haldeman
- William L. Safire
- Henry A. Kissinger
February 26, 1973
Conversation No. 413-33
Date: February 26, 1973
Time: 5:40 pm-7:15 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
William L. Safire
-Compared to Patrick J. Buchanan
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Press conference
-Question and answer [Q&A] format
-Time to complete assignment
-Compared to Raymond K. Price, Jr. and Buchanan
Press conferences
-Unanticipated questions
-Sarah McLendon
-Clark R. Mollenhoff
-Purpose
-Questions
-Submission in advance
-Follow up
-Unrehearsed format
-50-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Problems
-Advanced questions
-Advantages to press
-Follow up questions
-Preparation
-Q&A
-Compared to free questioning
-Avoidance of “No comment”
Input for President
-David N. Parker
-Coordination
-Telephone calls
-Congress
-John D. Ehrlichman
-List of Cabinet
-Response to President’s ideas
Kitchen cabinet
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-John A. Scali
-New York
Franklin R. Gannon
-Article
-Qualities as a writer
John F. Kennedy administration
-President’s view of treatment of public
-Game plan
Administration’s game plan
-List
-Press
-Congress
-Political
-Labor
-[First name unknown] Kahn
-51-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Business [?]
-Weekly meeting on one issue
-Competition
-White House staff input
-Buchanan
-Usefulness
-Ehrlichman
-Goals of administration
-Ehrlichman
-Gannon
-Analysis
-Logic as writer
-Price
-Analysis
-Meeting participant
-Buchanan
-Analysis
-Age
-Philosophical bent
-Price
-Ehrlichman
-Kissinger
-Public relations talents
-Gannon
Reorganization
-President’s point to Ehrlichman
-Reform
Issues
-Quality of life
-Leisure
-Environment
-Crime [?]
-Polls
-Economy [?]
Healthcare [?]
-52-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
The President talked with William Safire between 6:03 pm and 6:07 pm.
[Conversation No. 413-33A]
[See Conversation No. 43-200]
[End of telephone conversation]
Safire
Kennedy’s image
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
President's image
-Enhancement
-Amnesty
-Press satisfaction
-Public reaction
-Price, Safire’s opinion
-Public reaction
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Letters from mothers [?]
-Poll numbers
-Political fallout
-William W. Scranton [?]
Vietnam settlement
-Peace with honor
-Press criticism
-Administration response
White House staff reaction to President’s Vietnam War policy
-November 3, 1969 speech
-Controversial actions
-Opposition
-Fear of failure, risks
-Riots
-53-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
Congressional and public relations
-John B. Connally
-Public pressure
-Respect for President
-Caving
-Budget
-Tax increase
-Effect on President’s popularity
-Tax increases
-President’s responsibility
-Veto messages
-Tax issues
-Democrats’ Congress
-Partisanship
-Vietnam
-Swedish television [TV]
-Unknown person’s appearance
-Legislature
-President’s appearance at Trader Vic’s [?]
-Former Presidents
-Image
-Image of President
-Public desires
Buchanan’s father-in-law
-Funeral
Press relations
-Criticism of President
-Response
-Safire
-Press
-President’s conciliation
-TV appearance
-Display of anger
-Statement about POWs being programmed
-Public response
-54-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Press response
-New York Times
-Editorial
-Attack on POWs
Vetoes
-Statements
-Tone
-Bryce N. Harlow’s judgment
-Wording
-Effect on Congress
-Press coverage
Public mood
-Sensitivity
-Kissinger
-Harvard University colleagues
-State Department
Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft
-Weak link
-Kissinger
-Compared with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Pressures
Kissinger entered at 6:30 pm.
Greetings
Kissinger’s schedule
-Egypt
-Negotiations
Haldeman left at 6:30 pm.
-Hafiz Ismail [?]
-Compared with Gamal Abdel Nasser [?]
-55-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
Egypt
-Negotiations
-Egypt compared with Vietnam
-Duration of meeting
-Kissinger’s memo to President
-Issues
-State Department’s opinion
-Arab initiative
-President’s view
-Effect
Vietnam
-Withdrawals
-Timing
-Data
-B-52 strike
-Scowcroft
-POWs
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Withdrawal deadline
-Bunker [?]
-Quid pro quo
-William H. Sullivan
-Withdrawal and cease-fire
-Negotiations
-Laos and Cambodia
-Bombing
Middle East negotiations
-Meetings with Joseph J. Sisco and William P. Rogers
-Settlement
-Palestinians
-Negotiations
-Kissinger’s role
-Ismail [?]
-US position
-Promises
-56-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Agreements
-Negotiations
-Back channel compared with official channel
-Negotiations
-Emotion
-Procedure
-General agreement of principles between Egypt and US
-Talks with Israel
-Interim settlement
-Egypt
-Detailed negotiations
-Timing of first two stages
-State Department’s knowledge
-Israel
-General principles
-Interim agreement
-Egypt-Israel negotiations
-Syria, Jordan negotiations with Israel
-Leverage for Israel, Egypt settlement
-Jordan
-Timing
-Israel
-US negotiations
-Egypt
-April 10 meeting
-“Heads of an agreement”
-Fundamental principles
-US talks with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Ismail’s opinion
-Heads of agreement
-Israel’s agreement
-Leonid I. Brezhnev’s role
-Joint communication
-US recommendations
-Importance
-Negotiations
-Common principles between US and Egypt
-Israel
-57-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-US, Brezhnev joint communication
-Interim settlement
-Compared with full settlement
-Syria, Jordan, Egypt
-Israel’s withdrawal
-Kissinger’s talks with Ismail
-Israel’s security
-Egypt’s sovereignty
-Golda Meir
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 3s]
ISRAEL
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
******************************************************************************
-Kissinger’s discussions with Brezhnev
-State Department’s role
-Rogers
-USSR, People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-State Department
-Sullivan
-Position on Middle East
-Israel
-Administration strategy
Stephen B. Bull [?] entered at an unknown time after 6:31 pm.
Schedule
-Departure
Bull [?] left at an unknown time before 7:15 pm.
-58-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
Kissinger’s talks with Israel
-Egypt’s negotiating position
-US position
-Conflict with Israel
-Timing of negotiations
-State Department
-Interim settlement with Anwar el-Sadat, Israel
-Kissinger’s strategy
-Interim settlement
-Principles
-Arab cooperation
-USSR support
-May 1972 summit
-Israel’s agreement
-Two tracks
-Interim settlement
-Direct talks
-Timing of settlements
-Jordan, Egypt
-US aid to Israel
-US relations with Israel
-Domestic support
-Jews
Criticism of President's policies
-Time magazine [?]
-News story
-Success
-Jealousy
-Europe
-US-USSR relations
-December 1972 bombing
-Justifications
-POWs
-New York Times [?] editorial
-Attack on POWs’ integrity
-Public reaction
-59-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Credibility gap
Vietnam War
-Solicitation of opinion of McGeorge Bundy, Henry Cabot Lodge, and Scranton
New York Times
-Opposition to Soviet gas deal
-Economic arguments
-USSR’s persecution of scientists [?]
-John B. Oakes
-Position on USSR, PRC
-Attacks on President’s foreign policy
-Motives
-John Kennedy
-US liaison office
-Support
-Brezhnev’s visit to US
-US-USSR trade relations
-Private company
-Wheat deal
-US losses
-Oil deal
-US losses
-New deal
-Outrage
-Market rate
-US shipping
-Opposition to President
Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
-Relations with Taiwan
-PRC relations with Taiwan
-Kissinger’s conversation with Chou en-Lai
-Satisfaction
Attacks on President
-Kissinger
-India-Pakistan
-60-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Press frustrations
-Kissinger’s stories
-Women
-Attacks on Kissinger
-Public reactions
-Average citizenship
-Attention
-New York Times
Foreign policy
-PRC, USSR, Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] agreement, Vietnam
settlement
-Public support
-Establishment opposition
-Thomas W. Braden
-Tokyo
-Article
-PRC initiative
-Nuclear test bans
-John Kennedy
-Treaty
-Chemical and biological warfare
-Testing
-Compared with [Supersonic Transport] SST [?]
-Cancer
-Radioactivity
-Issue
-Value
-Press relations
-POWs
-Political benefits
-Statements in support of President, December bombing
-Adm. Thomas H. Moorer’s story
-Clapping
-December 1972 bombing
-Washington Star, Chicago Tribune
-Congressional opposition
-Negotiations
-61-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Breakthrough
-POWs
-Release
-Bombing
-Leverage
-Deadline to North Vietnam
Vietnam settlement
-Success
-Cambodia
-Phnom Penh
-Communist forces
-Coalition [?]
-Cambodia’s self-determination
-Diplomatic protests
-PRC [?]
Kissinger
-Report on Ismail meetings
-President’s press conference
-Talking paper for President’s Golda Meir meeting
-Meeting with President
Golda Meir
-Talks with Kissinger
-Meeting with President
-Length
-Dinner
-Purchases
-Effects
-Kissinger’s opinion
-Negotiating leverage
Kissinger left at 7:15 pm.
-62-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Date: February 26, 1973
Time: 5:40 pm-7:15 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
William L. Safire
-Compared to Patrick J. Buchanan
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Press conference
-Question and answer [Q&A] format
-Time to complete assignment
-Compared to Raymond K. Price, Jr. and Buchanan
Press conferences
-Unanticipated questions
-Sarah McLendon
-Clark R. Mollenhoff
-Purpose
-Questions
-Submission in advance
-Follow up
-Unrehearsed format
-50-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Problems
-Advanced questions
-Advantages to press
-Follow up questions
-Preparation
-Q&A
-Compared to free questioning
-Avoidance of “No comment”
Input for President
-David N. Parker
-Coordination
-Telephone calls
-Congress
-John D. Ehrlichman
-List of Cabinet
-Response to President’s ideas
Kitchen cabinet
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-John A. Scali
-New York
Franklin R. Gannon
-Article
-Qualities as a writer
John F. Kennedy administration
-President’s view of treatment of public
-Game plan
Administration’s game plan
-List
-Press
-Congress
-Political
-Labor
-[First name unknown] Kahn
-51-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Business [?]
-Weekly meeting on one issue
-Competition
-White House staff input
-Buchanan
-Usefulness
-Ehrlichman
-Goals of administration
-Ehrlichman
-Gannon
-Analysis
-Logic as writer
-Price
-Analysis
-Meeting participant
-Buchanan
-Analysis
-Age
-Philosophical bent
-Price
-Ehrlichman
-Kissinger
-Public relations talents
-Gannon
Reorganization
-President’s point to Ehrlichman
-Reform
Issues
-Quality of life
-Leisure
-Environment
-Crime [?]
-Polls
-Economy [?]
Healthcare [?]
-52-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
The President talked with William Safire between 6:03 pm and 6:07 pm.
[Conversation No. 413-33A]
[See Conversation No. 43-200]
[End of telephone conversation]
Safire
Kennedy’s image
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
President's image
-Enhancement
-Amnesty
-Press satisfaction
-Public reaction
-Price, Safire’s opinion
-Public reaction
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Letters from mothers [?]
-Poll numbers
-Political fallout
-William W. Scranton [?]
Vietnam settlement
-Peace with honor
-Press criticism
-Administration response
White House staff reaction to President’s Vietnam War policy
-November 3, 1969 speech
-Controversial actions
-Opposition
-Fear of failure, risks
-Riots
-53-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
Congressional and public relations
-John B. Connally
-Public pressure
-Respect for President
-Caving
-Budget
-Tax increase
-Effect on President’s popularity
-Tax increases
-President’s responsibility
-Veto messages
-Tax issues
-Democrats’ Congress
-Partisanship
-Vietnam
-Swedish television [TV]
-Unknown person’s appearance
-Legislature
-President’s appearance at Trader Vic’s [?]
-Former Presidents
-Image
-Image of President
-Public desires
Buchanan’s father-in-law
-Funeral
Press relations
-Criticism of President
-Response
-Safire
-Press
-President’s conciliation
-TV appearance
-Display of anger
-Statement about POWs being programmed
-Public response
-54-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Press response
-New York Times
-Editorial
-Attack on POWs
Vetoes
-Statements
-Tone
-Bryce N. Harlow’s judgment
-Wording
-Effect on Congress
-Press coverage
Public mood
-Sensitivity
-Kissinger
-Harvard University colleagues
-State Department
Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft
-Weak link
-Kissinger
-Compared with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Pressures
Kissinger entered at 6:30 pm.
Greetings
Kissinger’s schedule
-Egypt
-Negotiations
Haldeman left at 6:30 pm.
-Hafiz Ismail [?]
-Compared with Gamal Abdel Nasser [?]
-55-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
Egypt
-Negotiations
-Egypt compared with Vietnam
-Duration of meeting
-Kissinger’s memo to President
-Issues
-State Department’s opinion
-Arab initiative
-President’s view
-Effect
Vietnam
-Withdrawals
-Timing
-Data
-B-52 strike
-Scowcroft
-POWs
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Withdrawal deadline
-Bunker [?]
-Quid pro quo
-William H. Sullivan
-Withdrawal and cease-fire
-Negotiations
-Laos and Cambodia
-Bombing
Middle East negotiations
-Meetings with Joseph J. Sisco and William P. Rogers
-Settlement
-Palestinians
-Negotiations
-Kissinger’s role
-Ismail [?]
-US position
-Promises
-56-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Agreements
-Negotiations
-Back channel compared with official channel
-Negotiations
-Emotion
-Procedure
-General agreement of principles between Egypt and US
-Talks with Israel
-Interim settlement
-Egypt
-Detailed negotiations
-Timing of first two stages
-State Department’s knowledge
-Israel
-General principles
-Interim agreement
-Egypt-Israel negotiations
-Syria, Jordan negotiations with Israel
-Leverage for Israel, Egypt settlement
-Jordan
-Timing
-Israel
-US negotiations
-Egypt
-April 10 meeting
-“Heads of an agreement”
-Fundamental principles
-US talks with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Ismail’s opinion
-Heads of agreement
-Israel’s agreement
-Leonid I. Brezhnev’s role
-Joint communication
-US recommendations
-Importance
-Negotiations
-Common principles between US and Egypt
-Israel
-57-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-US, Brezhnev joint communication
-Interim settlement
-Compared with full settlement
-Syria, Jordan, Egypt
-Israel’s withdrawal
-Kissinger’s talks with Ismail
-Israel’s security
-Egypt’s sovereignty
-Golda Meir
******************************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 3s]
ISRAEL
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
******************************************************************************
-Kissinger’s discussions with Brezhnev
-State Department’s role
-Rogers
-USSR, People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-State Department
-Sullivan
-Position on Middle East
-Israel
-Administration strategy
Stephen B. Bull [?] entered at an unknown time after 6:31 pm.
Schedule
-Departure
Bull [?] left at an unknown time before 7:15 pm.
-58-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
Kissinger’s talks with Israel
-Egypt’s negotiating position
-US position
-Conflict with Israel
-Timing of negotiations
-State Department
-Interim settlement with Anwar el-Sadat, Israel
-Kissinger’s strategy
-Interim settlement
-Principles
-Arab cooperation
-USSR support
-May 1972 summit
-Israel’s agreement
-Two tracks
-Interim settlement
-Direct talks
-Timing of settlements
-Jordan, Egypt
-US aid to Israel
-US relations with Israel
-Domestic support
-Jews
Criticism of President's policies
-Time magazine [?]
-News story
-Success
-Jealousy
-Europe
-US-USSR relations
-December 1972 bombing
-Justifications
-POWs
-New York Times [?] editorial
-Attack on POWs’ integrity
-Public reaction
-59-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Credibility gap
Vietnam War
-Solicitation of opinion of McGeorge Bundy, Henry Cabot Lodge, and Scranton
New York Times
-Opposition to Soviet gas deal
-Economic arguments
-USSR’s persecution of scientists [?]
-John B. Oakes
-Position on USSR, PRC
-Attacks on President’s foreign policy
-Motives
-John Kennedy
-US liaison office
-Support
-Brezhnev’s visit to US
-US-USSR trade relations
-Private company
-Wheat deal
-US losses
-Oil deal
-US losses
-New deal
-Outrage
-Market rate
-US shipping
-Opposition to President
Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
-Relations with Taiwan
-PRC relations with Taiwan
-Kissinger’s conversation with Chou en-Lai
-Satisfaction
Attacks on President
-Kissinger
-India-Pakistan
-60-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Press frustrations
-Kissinger’s stories
-Women
-Attacks on Kissinger
-Public reactions
-Average citizenship
-Attention
-New York Times
Foreign policy
-PRC, USSR, Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] agreement, Vietnam
settlement
-Public support
-Establishment opposition
-Thomas W. Braden
-Tokyo
-Article
-PRC initiative
-Nuclear test bans
-John Kennedy
-Treaty
-Chemical and biological warfare
-Testing
-Compared with [Supersonic Transport] SST [?]
-Cancer
-Radioactivity
-Issue
-Value
-Press relations
-POWs
-Political benefits
-Statements in support of President, December bombing
-Adm. Thomas H. Moorer’s story
-Clapping
-December 1972 bombing
-Washington Star, Chicago Tribune
-Congressional opposition
-Negotiations
-61-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 413-33 (cont’d)
-Breakthrough
-POWs
-Release
-Bombing
-Leverage
-Deadline to North Vietnam
Vietnam settlement
-Success
-Cambodia
-Phnom Penh
-Communist forces
-Coalition [?]
-Cambodia’s self-determination
-Diplomatic protests
-PRC [?]
Kissinger
-Report on Ismail meetings
-President’s press conference
-Talking paper for President’s Golda Meir meeting
-Meeting with President
Golda Meir
-Talks with Kissinger
-Meeting with President
-Length
-Dinner
-Purchases
-Effects
-Kissinger’s opinion
-Negotiating leverage
Kissinger left at 7:15 pm.
-62-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)