468–17

Conversation No. 468-17

Date: March 16, 1971
Time: 4:52 pm - 5:30 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman
Conv. No. 468-16 (cont.)
George P. Shultz’s location

Clifford M. Hardin
-Future
-Purdue University

A possible assignment regarding agriculture
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Hyde Murray

President’s schedule
-Meeting with mayors
-Funds to cities
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Special revenue sharing
-George W. Romney
-Richard G. Lugar and an unnamed man
-Press briefing
-President’s role
-Scope
-Black activists
-Mayors
-John V. Lindsay
-Communications with White House
-Prospective meeting attendees
-Lugar’s group
-Lindsay’s group
-Complaints
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Length of meeting
-President’s role
-Ehrlichman’s position
-Weinberger
-Compared with governors’ meeting
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-Location
-Weinberger, Romney
-President’s role
-Plans
-Length

Shultz entered at an unknown time after 4:52 pm
Conv. No. 468-17 (cont.)
-An earlier meeting
-Lindsay’s group

Unemployment and scientists
-Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.’s report
-Government training programs
-A task force

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order on
May 22, 1979, for Special Access [SA] 27, Cities Service Helex, Inc. v. United States, No. 138-
75; and National Helium Corp. v. United States, No. 158-75. The National Archives and
Records Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

President’s schedule
-Meeting with mayors
-President’s role
-Length
-Previous meetings with Lugar group and Lindsay group
-Lindsay group
-Carl B. Stokes
-Legislative committee of Conference of Mayors
-Possible meeting with Lindsay
-Meeting with mayors
-Press briefing by Lindsay
-Stokes
-Lindsay
-Press briefing subjects
-Attendees
-Lugar
-League of Cities officers
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 8s ]

Conv. No. 468-17 (cont.)
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Social Security
-Impact on budget
-Alternatives
-Cuts
-Congressional cuts
-Financing benefits
-Welfare Reform Bill
-Effect on revenue sharing
-Possible statement by President

[The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 4:52 pm and 5:30
pm]

[Conversation No. 468-17A]

Message
-Delivery

[End of telephone conversation]

Social Security
-Signing of debt statement
-Time
-John B. Connally
-Congressional action
-Time
-Ceremony
-Purpose
-President’s meeting with Fortune people
-Inflation
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-Effect on President’s possible statement
-Congressional action
-Arthur F. Burns’ testimony
-Effect
-Russell B. Long and Wilbur D. Mills
-Wage base
-Budget
-Possible signing of debt statement Conv. No. 468-17 (cont.)
-Future Congressional action
-Cost-of-living increases
-Ways and Means Committee
-Financing
-A bill
-Long
-Possible signing ceremony
-Effect
-Possible remarks
-Congress
-Financing
-Attendees
-Congressmen
-Senior citizens
-Cost-of-living increase
-A bill in the House
-Cost-of-living increases
-Administration position
-Mills

Revenue sharing
-Effect on full-employment budget
-Administration position
-Mayors’ position
-Possible White House request for Congressional action
-Congressional response
-Effect on budget
-Possible Presidential veto

Social Security
-Possible Congressional action
-Inflation
-Burns
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-Effect on economy
-Monetary growth
-Compared with pay raises
-Shultz’s view
-President’s statement upon signing bill
-Another bill
-Connally
-Possible meeting with Mills Conv. No. 468-17 (cont.)
-House Ways and Means Committee
-White House negotiations with Mills
-Compared with tax reform bill
-Budget deficit
-Amount
-Effect

Revenue sharing
-Burns
-John N. Mitchell [?]
-Maurice H. Stans and Romney
-Congress
-Other programs
-Administration’s role
-Constituency
-Administration spokesmen
-Audiences
-Appeal
-Republican and Democrat positions
-[Thomas] Hale Boggs
-Alternatives
-Democrat mayors
-Carl B. Albert
-Lawrence F. O’Brien, Jr.
-Regional commissions
-John W. Byrnes
-Barber B. Conable, Jr.
-Alternatives
-Ways and Means staff
-Congressional ability to formulate alternatives
-Congressional votes
-Possible alternatives
-White House position
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-Upcoming bills
-Effect
-Amarillo, Santa Fe, New York

Other domestic programs
-Health, environment, welfare
-Congressional committees
-Welfare Conv. No. 468-17 (cont.)
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Health programs
-White House efforts
-Revenue sharing
-Ways and Means Committee
-Byrnes
-Effect on small business of proposed programs
-Meeting with White House staff
-California Kaiser Permanente Health Maintenance facility
-Possible visit by the President
-Senior citizens
-Medicare patients
-Coverage
-Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland

President’s forthcoming press conference

Consumer Price Index announcement
-Bureau of Labor Statistics
-Time
-Presentation
-Secretary of Labor’s statement

An unknown person [Alexander P. Butterfield?] entered at an unknown time after 4:52 pm

Thomas E. Dewey’s death

The unknown person [Butterfield?] left at an unknown time before 5:30 pm

President’s schedule
-Work on a message

Ehrlichman and Shultz left at 5:30 pm
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