476–25

Conversation No. 476-25

Date: April 9, 1971
Time: 1:47 pm - 2:37 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with Arthur F. Burns

[See Conversation No. 1-63]

Henry A. Kissinger and Peter G. Peterson entered at 1:50 pm

[Peterson talked with Burns at an unknown time between 1:50 pm and 1:54 pm]

[Conversation No. 476-25A]

[See Conversation No. 1-63A]

[End of telephone conversation]

Peterson’s Council on International Economic Policy [CIEP] briefing
-Kissinger
-Significance
-Future policy
-President’s conversation with George P. Shultz
-Audience
-White House staff and other administration officials
-Under secretaries
-Congress
-Bipartisan group
-Sanitization
-Clark MacGregor
-William P. Rogers
-Possible problem in briefing
-Trade policy
-Bipartisan
-Opportunities
-Congress
-Size of group
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-Location
-State Department
-Commerce Department
-White House theater
-MacGregor
-Organization
-President’s opening remarks
-Length of briefing
-Discussion
-President’s conversation with Shultz
-Briefing with Burns
-Anti-trust
-Influence with Congress
-Length of briefing
-Instruction to Kissinger
-Use of chart
-President’s possible attendance
-Briefing
-Shultz
-Charts
-Peterson
-The President
-Possible conversation with Maurice H. Stans
-Businessmen
-Labor
-Business council executives
-Foreign competition
-Issues
-Charles H. Percy
-Conservatives

Anti-trust policy
-Need for planning
-President’s conversation with Burns
-President’s conversation with Chicago businessmen, April 8, 1971
-Long-range projections
-US goals

Peterson’s CIEP briefing
-US competitive position
-Japan
-Europe
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-Communist world
-Chart
-Bloc countries versus free world
Mexico
-Issues
-Ontario Airport landing rights
-Eggs
-Textiles Conv. No. 476-25 (cont.)
-New group of leaders
-Foreign Minister
-Kissinger’s forthcoming call to Ambassador Jose Juan de Olloqui
-Luis Echeverria Alvarez

Bolivia
-Tin
-Stockpiling
-President’s conversation with Ambassador Antonio Sanchez de Lozada
-Shultz
-Sanchez de Lozada
-Stockpiling

Pan-American Highway
-Panama
-Memorandum to President
-Role of departments
-Bureaucratic problems
-Importance of Latin America
-Benefits to Mexico
-Mexico City
-Economic growth
-President’s trip to Mexico, 1955
-Bureau of Public Roads
-Long-range plan

Tariff preferences
-Effect on Latin America
-Need for legislation
-Franco Maria Malfatti
-Rogers
-Unknown conference
-Need for legislation
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Sugar
-Importance to Latin America
-Quota
-Page Belcher
-Conversation with Peterson
-State Department
-Latin America
-Philippines Conv. No. 476-25 (cont.)
-Possible US policy
-Kissinger
-Ambassadors
-State Department
-Charles A. Meyer

CIEP
-Peterson
-Rogers
-State Department
-Representation
-Commerce Department
-Stans
-Trade with Eastern Bloc
-Perspective
-Likelihood of trade
-Timing
-Possible US overtures
-Economic basis
-Time magazine article
-Stans
-Evaluation
-Opportunities
-Possibilities
-Perspective
-Political standpoint
-Commerce Department
-Meeting at Executive Office Building
-Report to Peterson
-Use of trade abroad
-Stans’ speech
-US policy
-Foreign policy aspects
-Kissinger and Peterson meeting
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Peterson’s meeting with Time editors
-April 13, 1971
-Possible briefing
-Economic stance
-Defensiveness
-Regulation
-Outdated policies Conv. No. 476-25 (cont.)
-”Generation of peace”
-Possible review with Kissinger
-Economic leadership
-Future
-Belief in competition
-Home and abroad
-US leadership
-Emergence of free world
-President’s leadership role
-Need for programs
-David Davis
-Peterson’s meeting
-Technology
-Raw materials
-Business-government relationship
-Anti-trust
-Airlines
-Burns
-Reaffirmation of US leadership
-US political position
-US diplomatic position
-Administration’s policy
-Economic leadership
-Malfatti
-Multinational corporations
-Role of government in industrial research
-Peace
-Era of economic competition
-US preparation
-Revitalization
-Public and private sector
-Trade policy
-Anti-trust laws
-International monetary policy
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-Long-range view versus election view
-Difficulty of long-range goals
-Past perspective
-President’s congressional career
-US aid to Europe, Japan, and Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Reciprocal trade
-Foreign aid
-Marshall Plan Conv. No. 476-25 (cont.)
-President’s internationalism
-New isolationism
-Economic policy
-Need for Presidential leadership
-Impact on industry, labor, Congress
-Military study
-Gaither Committee
-President’s leadership position
-Need for constructive partnership
-Technology study
-David M. Kennedy
-Presidential commissions
-Staff
-Timing
-Joseph C. Wilson, Xerox
-Other leaders
-Business-government relationship
-Anti-trust
-Business Council
-Raw materials
-Recommendation
-Business Council
-Representation
-Heartland
-Chicago
-Los Angeles
-Dallas
-Houston
-Atlanta
-Easterners
-Parochialism
-Patrick E. Haggerty
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Peter M. Flanigan
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-Energy policy
-Breeder reactor
-Clean energy
Peterson’s briefing
-Peterson’s staff

Kissinger’s briefing, April 8, 1971
-Research and Development [RAND] Corporation Conv. No. 476-25 (cont.)

Burns

Peterson left at an unknown time before 2:35 pm

Ronald L. Ziegler’s press briefing
-Hugh Scott
-Impressions of President’s statement
-Vietnam withdrawal date
-Press
-Residual force
-Terminal date
-Circumstances
-Election
-Negotiations
-Administration’s position
-Withdrawal
-Unilateral withdrawal
-Residual force
-President’s speech on Southeast Asia, April 7, 1971
-Melvin R. Laird
-Memorandum on residual force
-Goal of total withdrawal
-Vietnamization
-Prisoners of War [POWs] wives
-Ziegler
-Timing
-Conditions
-POWs
-Negotiation
-Vietnamization
-Negotiations

Kissinger’s conversation with David Brinkley
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-President’s program of seeing POWs
-Lieutenant William L. Calley, Jr.
-Domestic tensions
-Relation with war
-Administration’s opponents
-Post-war reconciliation
-Kissinger’s possible call to Brinkley
President’s speech on Southeast Asia, April 7, 1971 Conv. No. 476-25 (cont.)
-Reaction
-Calley
-Brinkley
-Mail
-Public opinion
-Frustration prior to speech

Cambodia
-President’s conversation with General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Press story by Terence F. Smith
-Floyd E. (“Red”) Smith

Possible leak
-State Department

Kennedy’s trip to Asia
-Marshall Green
-Indonesia
-T. N. J. Suharto
-Military aid
-Peace Corps
-Micronesia
-Haig
-Joseph H. Blatchford
-Evaluation
-Haig
-Micronesia
-Blatchford
-Indonesia
-Staff
-Green
-Vietnam
-Sir Robert Thompson
-Optimism
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-[Laos and Cambodia]
Thompson’s views
-Views on Indochina
-Timing

T. F. Smith article
-Cambodia
-[Forename unknown] Ladd Conv. No. 476-25 (cont.)
-T. F. Smith
-Cambodia
-Possible loss
-Timing

Vietnam
-Withdrawal rate
-Mistakes
-Deadlines on operations
-Re-equipment of South Vietnamese Army
-Cambodia
-Military aid
-Consequences of loss
-Impact on the President
-Laos
-Lam Son
-Admiral Thomas H. Moorer
-President’s speech on Southeast Asia, April 7, 1971
-Instruction for Kissinger
-Laird

Economy
-Vietnam
-Possible “Tet” [North Vietnamese military operation]
-Timing
-Consequences
-For US and the President
-RAND
-Recession
-Unknown San Francisco and New York bankers
-Pockets of recession
-Interest rates
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Agency for International Development [AID] personnel
-Thompson
-Numbers
-Saigon
-Indonesia
-US aid

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 1:50 pm Conv. No. 476-25 (cont.)

President’s schedule
Documents for president’s signature

Bull left at an unknown time before 2:35 pm

Vietnam
-Residual force
-Instructions to Kissinger
-Telephone call to Rogers
-Laird
-Residual force
-US goal
-Total withdrawal
-Timing
-Conditions
-Training of South Vietnamese Army
-POWs
-Negotiations
-Vietnamization
-US plans
-POW issue
-Enemy objective
-US goal
-Negotiations
-US policy
-Laird
-Forthcoming meeting with Kissinger

Phil Watts entered at 2:35 pm

Greetings

President’s schedule
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-Saint John’s Episcopal Church
-Good Friday services

President, Kissinger, and Watts left at 2:37 pm



Conv. No. 476-25 (cont.)