488–24

Conversation No. 488-24

Date: April 27, 1971
Time: 4:57 pm - 5:52 pm Conv. No. 488-22 (cont.)
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

Elmer H. Bobst

Dictation
-Machine
-Problems
-Memoranda
-Charles H. Percy

[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Stephen B. Bull entered and left at an unknown time during the transcribed portion.

Letter to Mayor James H. Tate
-Revenue sharing
-Tate's support
-Public statement
-Congress
-Governors, mayors
-Congress

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Letter from Nick Charles

Unknown item

[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:57 pm.

President's schedule
-Bobst

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:12 pm.

[Transcript #3: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

President's schedule
-Upcoming meeting with voluntary action leadership
-Unknown man (Bobst?)

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Television
-Coverage
-Effect
-Woods’ view Conv. No. 488-24 (cont.)

President's schedule
-Speech to Chamber of Commerce, April 26, 1971
-Reception
-Welfare

[Transcript #4: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Letters to Woods

President's schedule
-Meeting with Michael Newton
-Picture
-Jerald F. (“Jerry”) ter Horst
-Meeting with Cathy (\"Mim\") Frazier
-Cystic fibrosis child
-ter Horst's reaction

William P. Rogers and Bobst entered at 5:12 pm: the White House photographer was present at
the beginning of the meeting.

Photograph
-Rogers' schedule
-Woods' schedule
-Portrait of Washington

Manolo Sanchez entered at 5:13 pm.

Refreshment
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Sanchez and Woods left at 5:13 pm.

President's schedule
-Previous meeting with Domestic Council
Rogers left at 5:13 pm.

Cancer research Conv. No. 488-24 (cont.)
-Chief Monzon
-Bobst's role
-Directorship
-[Unintelligible first name] Richardson
-Unknown man

The President talked with the White House operator at 5:13 pm.

[Conversation No. 488-24A]

[See Conversation No. 2-47]

[End of telephone conversation]

Cancer research
-Directorship
-Unknown man
-Qualifications
-Ann Landers column
-Telegrams
-Congress
-Progress
-Bobst
-Clint, Hoffman-La Roche
-Albert D. Lasker and Eric G. Johnson
-New Jersey campaign
-Bobst's activities
-Bond committee
-[Unintelligible name]
-New Jersey campaign
-Fundraising
-Lasker
-Executive committee
-Unknown man
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-Murphy [Surname unknown]
-Son
-Dr. James S. Murphy
-Margaretta (\"Happy\") Rockefeller
-Bobst's activities
-Women volunteers
-Unknown woman
-Fundraising Conv. No. 488-24 (cont.)
-Bobst’s financial supports
-Bobst’s activities
-Funding
-Speeches
-American Cancer Society
-Mary Lasker’s financial support
-Scientists
-Affiliations
-Societies
-Successes
-Bobst's speeches abroad
-Tokyo
-Beirut
-Athens
-Rio de Janeiro
-Venezuela
-Mexico
-National Institute of Health [NIH]
-Bobst’s meetings

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 5:13 pm and
5:24 pm.

[Conversation No. 488-24B]

[See Conversation No. 2-48]

[End of telephone conversation]

American Cancer Society
-Management
-Qualifications

The President spoke with John D. Ehrlichman between 5:24 pm and 5:25 pm.
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[Conversation No. 488-24C]

[See Conversation No. 2-49]

[End of telephone]

Cancer research Conv. No. 488-24 (cont.)
-NIH
-Candidates
-Dr. Henry S. Kaplan
-Stanford University
-Bobst
-Lung cancer
-Previous research
-Cigarette smoking
-Deaths
-Number
-Michael E. DeBakey and [unintelligible name]
-Tulane University
-Research
-Publicity
-Bobst's committee
-Lung cancer
-Cigarette smoking
-1950 article in British medical journal
-London chimney sweepers
-Coal tar
-Incidents
-Parallels
-Deaths
-Upcoming Peru meeting
-Bobst’s goals
-Public awareness
-Unknown man's reaction
-[Unintelligible name]
-Resolution
-Relationship
-Scientific committee
-Non-smokers and smokers
-Report
-Health departments
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-American Cancer Society
-Organizations
-Projects
-Lung cancer
-Cigarette smoking
-Incidents
-Risk factors
-Update Conv. No. 488-24 (cont.)
-Coronaries
-Risks
-Chain smokers
-American Cancer Society
-Research
-Bobst's activities
-Institutions
-National Research Council
-Dr. Jonathan E. Rhoads
-Committees
-Grants
-Funds
-Applications
-Harvard
-Yale
-Columbia
-Wisconsin
-Minnesota

Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:25 pm.

President's schedule
-Upcoming meeting with National Voluntary Action leadership
-Henry Ford II
-Number
-Cabinet Room

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:45 pm.

Cancer
-Research
-Bobst’s conversation with University presidents
-Applications
-Salaries
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-Teams
-Grants
-American Cancer Society
-Research grants
-Budget outlays
-Basic research
-NIH
-Bobst Conv. No. 488-24 (cont.)
-Staff
-Accomplishments
-Bobst’s view
-Expenditures
-Bureaucracy
-Effect
-Applications
-Basic research
-Medical education
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
-Publicity
-Importance
-NIH
-Budget
-Spending
-Leadership
-Qualifications

Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:25 pm.

President's schedule
-Ehrlichman

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:45 pm.

Cancer
-Research
-Committee
-Head
-Doctor
-American Cancer Society
-Bobst’s role
-Bobst's possible meeting with Kaplan
-Ehrlichman
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-Kaplan
-Position
-Planning
-Businessmen
-Warner Lambert Pharmaceutical Company
-Bobst

Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:25 pm. Conv. No. 488-24 (cont.)

President's schedule
-Ehrlichman
-National Voluntary Action leadership

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:45 pm.

Warner Lambert Pharmaceutical Company
-Gross sales
-Prospects
-First quarter
-Earnings

Economy
-President's conversations with executives
-First quarter
-Improvements

Presentation of gifts
-Cuff links
-\"Dodo\" Bobst
-Presidential paper weight
-Tie clasp
-Key chain

Ehrlichman entered at 5:45 pm.

President's schedule
-Upcoming meeting with National Voluntary Action leadership
-Bobst's schedule

NIH
-Appropriations
-President’s view
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-Leadership
-Bureaucracy
-Breakthrough
-Cancer

Cancer program
-Administration's position
-Bobst's view Conv. No. 488-24 (cont.)
-Leadership
-Expenditures
-Doctors
-American Cancer Society
-[Forename unknown] Shiely
-Schedule

Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:45 pm.

Shiely's location

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:52 pm.

Cancer program
-Management
-Kaplan
-Qualifications
-Bureaucracy
-Money
-Overhead
-Organization
-Landers' column
-Wires
-Numbers
-Directorship
-Organization
-Bureaucracy
-President’s view
-Bobst's possible meeting with Kaplan
-Kaplan
-Qualifications
-Directorship
-Business background
-American Cancer Society
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-Budget
-Overhead

President's schedule
-National Voluntary Action leadership
-Bobst's schedule

Cancer Conv. No. 488-24 (cont.)
-Crusade
-Public concerns
-State of the Union speech
-Money
-NIH
-Administration's position
-Smoking
-Research
-England
-Cigarettes

Bobst's schedule
-Woods
-\"Dodo\" Bobst
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower

Bobst and Ehrlichman left at 5:52 pm.