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521–13
- President Richard M. Nixon
- Kenneth B. Keating
- Henry A. Kissinger
- White House photographer
- Manolo Sanchez
- Alexander P. Butterfield
June 15, 1971
Conversation No. 521-13
Date: June 15, 1971
Time: 5:13 pm - 6:03 pm
Location: Oval Office
Conv. No. 521-12 (cont.)
The President met with Kenneth Keating and Henry A. Kissinger; White House photographer
was present at the beginning of the meeting.
Greetings
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 23s ]
INDIA
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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India-US relations
-Background of situation
-Meeting with Foreign Minister
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:13 pm.
Refreshments
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:41 pm.
Indian and US relations
-Status
-Indira Gandhi election
27
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Size of victory
-Effect on opposition
-Effect on relations
-Stability
-Union Carbide and Remington Rand licence approval
-Rationale
-Employment
-Export
-Keating’s call on Minister of Industrial Development
-M.H. Chaudhury
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
[National Security]
[Duration: 4s ]
INDIA
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
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-Keating’s view
-Views of new Minister
-Indian resources
-Public and private sectors
-Foreign investment
-Keating contact with Mrs. Gandhi
-Cordiality
-Rationale
-Mahalia Jackson concert
-Keating cables to Department of State
-Keating assessment of situation
-Timing of Cables
-East Pakistan
-Keating assessment
-Indian and Pakistan stability
28
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Aid
-Keating’s recommendation
-Staff contribution
-President's meeting with Foreign Minister
-Possible topics
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Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[National Security]
[Duration: 52s ]
INDIA-PAKISTAN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
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-Aid
-Keating’s conversations
-Etxent
-Amount
-Increases
-C-130 aircraft
-Refugee problem
-Need to shift them back to Pakistan
-Effect on India
-Number
-Calcutta's Plight
-Continued flight into India
-Pakistan
-Hindus
-Impact on population
-Genocide
-Extent
-Outlawing of Awami League
-East Pakistan
-Political settlement in East Pakistan
29
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Effect of Refugees
-Hindus and Muslims
-Goals
-Peace
-Reversal of Refugee Flow
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Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
[National Security]
[Duration: 26s ]
PAKISTAN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
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-International Monetary Fund [IMF] action
-Peter Cardell (?) role
-Paris meeting
-Possibility of political settlement
-Agha Muhommad Yahya Khan
-Keating’s view
-Yahya’s role
-[Unintelligible] role
-Awami League role
-Keating and Joseph S. Farland (?)
-Changes in Pakistan
-President's relationship with Yahya
-Timing
-Topics
-Use of aid to help resolve crisis
-Use of aid
-Rationale
-John B. Connally
-Amounts
-Pakistan reaction
30
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
Invitation of Keating to Willy Brandt dinner
-Keating schedule
-John Sherman Cooper party
-Timing
Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 5:30 pm.
Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-Place for Keating at dinner
-Timing
Butterfield left at 5:31 pm.
-Attire
-Attendance
-Government officials
-Brandt
-Businessmen
-Eastman Kodak president
-Bill Long [?]
-Louis Kenneth Eilers
-Thomas Gates Jr.
-Dow Chemical Chairman [Carl A. Gerstacker]
-Companies
-Monumental Properties [Joseph Meyerhoff]
-National Cash Register [Robert S. Oelman]
-National Airlines chairman [Dudley Swim]
-Dell E. Webb
-Kodak
-Eilers
-Hierarchy
Indian-US relations
-The President’s scheduled meeting with Swaran Singh [Indian Foreign Minister]
-Kissinger
-Indian population problems
-Role of democracy
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-The President’s policies
-Indian criticism of US
-US policy
-Role of stability
-Kashmir
31
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Collapse of Pakistan
-US strategy
-Support for India
-Yahya Khan
-Congress
-Popularity of foreign aid
-Feeling for India and Pakistan War
-Involvement in Biafra [Nigerian Civil War] Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-US strategy
-Rationale
-Forthcoming meeting with Indian foreign minister
-US policy
-Refugees
-Method of accomplishment
-Avoidance of internal involvement
-Avoidance of armed conflict
-Pressure on Indira Gandhi
-Indian Congress
-Refugee problem
-Danger
-The President’s forthcoming meeting with India foreign minister
-Refugee Problem
Presidential gifts
Political situation
-Media attacks on President
-New York Times
-Washington Post
-Public opinion
-War deaths in Asia
-War deaths in Europe
-Role of press
-Effect of escalation on President's reelection
-Quest for more foreign aid
-Yahya’s role
Keating left at 5:41 pm.
India-US relations
-Kissinger’s schedule
-[David] Kenneth Rush
32
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Aid to India and Pakistan
-Farland
-Situation in Dacca [East Pakistan]
-Counsel General's Rebellion
-Kissinger’s talk with Indian ambassador
-Lakshmi Kant Jha
-Contact of President and Ghandi through Indian ambassador
-US aid Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-Keating
-Need for time for US to act
-President's meeting with foreign minister
-Contact with Keating
-US position
-Sympathy
-Delivery of aid
-Pakistan
-Keating contact with State Department
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 2m 6s ]
PAKISTAN
FRANCE
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Pentagon Papers
-John N. Mitchell action
-Suite of New York Times
-Public right to know
-Possible Congressional action
-New York Times responsibilities
-William P. Rogers point in briefing
33
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Concern of foreign nations
-Need to fight, New York Times
-Naming of Pentagon Papers
-Robert S. McNamara and Clark M. Clifford
-John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson papers
-McNamara
-McNamara reaction to leaks Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-Need to react
-Effect of McNamara role as World Bank President
-Dean G. Acheson comment
-Confusion of issue
-Public's right to know
-President's role in fight
-Possible Rogers statement
-Effect on communications with foreign governments
-Effect on President’s relationship with State and Department of Defense [DOD]
-Legal status of publication
-Temporary restraining order
-Effect
-New York Times reputation
-Public right to know
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
-Pearl Harbor information
-Declassification
-Procedures to declassify
-Permission required
-McGeorge Bundy
-Johnson
-Effect of selective declassification
-Contingency planning
-Kissinger’s circulation of memoranda
-Leak possibilities
-President's role in controlling classified material
-Opening up of official papers
-Possible Presidential library
-President's Vice President papers
-Press
-Lord Kennan (?) party
-Guest list
-Press personalities
-Violation of security
34
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-British compared with US press
-New York Times view of publication
-Focus of New York Times attack
-New York Times view of publication
-Presidential responsibility
-Johnson
-Moral compared with immoral war
-Public right to know Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-Retaliation by President on New York Times
-Access to White House functions
-Swedish Prime Minister’s comment
-Olaf Palme
-Kissinger’s conversation with Rogers
-US-Vietnam strategy
-Rogers
-Recall of ambassador
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[National Security]
[Duration: 22s ]
SWEDEN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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-Conspiracy theory
-Leaking of papers
-Leslie H. Gelb role
-Rand Corporation role
-Neil Sheehan
-Coincidence of events
-Clark M. Clifford statements
-New York Times story
-Veterans
35
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
Vietnam War
-Congressional resolutions
-Marlow W. Cook and Ted Stevens
-Clark McGregor
-Provisions
-Release of Prisoners of War [POWs]
-US withdrawal Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
Kissinger’s assessment
State dinner
-President's meeting with Brandt
-Kissinger attendance
-Rational
-Contact with Brandt
-Contact with Egon Bahr
-Meeting for the Record
-Rush, Egon Bahr, Kissinger meeting
-Thursday breakfast
International relations
-US-PRC contacts
-US-Soviet Union contacts
-Effect of New York Times story
-Image of President's domestic strength
-Cambodia
-Laos operation (Lam Son)
-North Vietnam relations
-Possible summit with Soviet Union
-Effect of US-Soviet Union and US-PRC contacts
-President's meeting with Congressmen and Senators
-President's initiatives
-Berlin agreement
-Benefits
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-US-PRC contacts
-Effect on Soviet Union
-Rationale for Meeting with Antoliy F. Dobrynin
-Rogers role
-SALT
New York Times story
36
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Effect on intellectual establishment
-Cooks-Stevens legislation
-Calls to President
-Joseph McCarthy analogy
Scheduling
-H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Kissinger’s schedule Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-President's schedule
-Tempo of events
-The President schedule
-Forthcoming trip to Florida
-Kissinger
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[National Security]
[Duration: 56s ]
PRC
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
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Message to Rush
-Personnel
The President and Henry A. Kissinger left at 6:03 pm.
Date: June 15, 1971
Time: 5:13 pm - 6:03 pm
Location: Oval Office
Conv. No. 521-12 (cont.)
The President met with Kenneth Keating and Henry A. Kissinger; White House photographer
was present at the beginning of the meeting.
Greetings
**********************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 23s ]
INDIA
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
**********************************************************************
India-US relations
-Background of situation
-Meeting with Foreign Minister
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:13 pm.
Refreshments
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:41 pm.
Indian and US relations
-Status
-Indira Gandhi election
27
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Size of victory
-Effect on opposition
-Effect on relations
-Stability
-Union Carbide and Remington Rand licence approval
-Rationale
-Employment
-Export
-Keating’s call on Minister of Industrial Development
-M.H. Chaudhury
******************************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
[National Security]
[Duration: 4s ]
INDIA
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
******************************************************************************
-Keating’s view
-Views of new Minister
-Indian resources
-Public and private sectors
-Foreign investment
-Keating contact with Mrs. Gandhi
-Cordiality
-Rationale
-Mahalia Jackson concert
-Keating cables to Department of State
-Keating assessment of situation
-Timing of Cables
-East Pakistan
-Keating assessment
-Indian and Pakistan stability
28
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Aid
-Keating’s recommendation
-Staff contribution
-President's meeting with Foreign Minister
-Possible topics
******************************************************************************
Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[National Security]
[Duration: 52s ]
INDIA-PAKISTAN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
******************************************************************************
-Aid
-Keating’s conversations
-Etxent
-Amount
-Increases
-C-130 aircraft
-Refugee problem
-Need to shift them back to Pakistan
-Effect on India
-Number
-Calcutta's Plight
-Continued flight into India
-Pakistan
-Hindus
-Impact on population
-Genocide
-Extent
-Outlawing of Awami League
-East Pakistan
-Political settlement in East Pakistan
29
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Effect of Refugees
-Hindus and Muslims
-Goals
-Peace
-Reversal of Refugee Flow
******************************************************************************
Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
[National Security]
[Duration: 26s ]
PAKISTAN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
******************************************************************************
-International Monetary Fund [IMF] action
-Peter Cardell (?) role
-Paris meeting
-Possibility of political settlement
-Agha Muhommad Yahya Khan
-Keating’s view
-Yahya’s role
-[Unintelligible] role
-Awami League role
-Keating and Joseph S. Farland (?)
-Changes in Pakistan
-President's relationship with Yahya
-Timing
-Topics
-Use of aid to help resolve crisis
-Use of aid
-Rationale
-John B. Connally
-Amounts
-Pakistan reaction
30
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
Invitation of Keating to Willy Brandt dinner
-Keating schedule
-John Sherman Cooper party
-Timing
Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 5:30 pm.
Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-Place for Keating at dinner
-Timing
Butterfield left at 5:31 pm.
-Attire
-Attendance
-Government officials
-Brandt
-Businessmen
-Eastman Kodak president
-Bill Long [?]
-Louis Kenneth Eilers
-Thomas Gates Jr.
-Dow Chemical Chairman [Carl A. Gerstacker]
-Companies
-Monumental Properties [Joseph Meyerhoff]
-National Cash Register [Robert S. Oelman]
-National Airlines chairman [Dudley Swim]
-Dell E. Webb
-Kodak
-Eilers
-Hierarchy
Indian-US relations
-The President’s scheduled meeting with Swaran Singh [Indian Foreign Minister]
-Kissinger
-Indian population problems
-Role of democracy
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-The President’s policies
-Indian criticism of US
-US policy
-Role of stability
-Kashmir
31
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Collapse of Pakistan
-US strategy
-Support for India
-Yahya Khan
-Congress
-Popularity of foreign aid
-Feeling for India and Pakistan War
-Involvement in Biafra [Nigerian Civil War] Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-US strategy
-Rationale
-Forthcoming meeting with Indian foreign minister
-US policy
-Refugees
-Method of accomplishment
-Avoidance of internal involvement
-Avoidance of armed conflict
-Pressure on Indira Gandhi
-Indian Congress
-Refugee problem
-Danger
-The President’s forthcoming meeting with India foreign minister
-Refugee Problem
Presidential gifts
Political situation
-Media attacks on President
-New York Times
-Washington Post
-Public opinion
-War deaths in Asia
-War deaths in Europe
-Role of press
-Effect of escalation on President's reelection
-Quest for more foreign aid
-Yahya’s role
Keating left at 5:41 pm.
India-US relations
-Kissinger’s schedule
-[David] Kenneth Rush
32
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Aid to India and Pakistan
-Farland
-Situation in Dacca [East Pakistan]
-Counsel General's Rebellion
-Kissinger’s talk with Indian ambassador
-Lakshmi Kant Jha
-Contact of President and Ghandi through Indian ambassador
-US aid Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-Keating
-Need for time for US to act
-President's meeting with foreign minister
-Contact with Keating
-US position
-Sympathy
-Delivery of aid
-Pakistan
-Keating contact with State Department
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 2m 6s ]
PAKISTAN
FRANCE
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Pentagon Papers
-John N. Mitchell action
-Suite of New York Times
-Public right to know
-Possible Congressional action
-New York Times responsibilities
-William P. Rogers point in briefing
33
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Concern of foreign nations
-Need to fight, New York Times
-Naming of Pentagon Papers
-Robert S. McNamara and Clark M. Clifford
-John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson papers
-McNamara
-McNamara reaction to leaks Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-Need to react
-Effect of McNamara role as World Bank President
-Dean G. Acheson comment
-Confusion of issue
-Public's right to know
-President's role in fight
-Possible Rogers statement
-Effect on communications with foreign governments
-Effect on President’s relationship with State and Department of Defense [DOD]
-Legal status of publication
-Temporary restraining order
-Effect
-New York Times reputation
-Public right to know
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
-Pearl Harbor information
-Declassification
-Procedures to declassify
-Permission required
-McGeorge Bundy
-Johnson
-Effect of selective declassification
-Contingency planning
-Kissinger’s circulation of memoranda
-Leak possibilities
-President's role in controlling classified material
-Opening up of official papers
-Possible Presidential library
-President's Vice President papers
-Press
-Lord Kennan (?) party
-Guest list
-Press personalities
-Violation of security
34
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-British compared with US press
-New York Times view of publication
-Focus of New York Times attack
-New York Times view of publication
-Presidential responsibility
-Johnson
-Moral compared with immoral war
-Public right to know Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-Retaliation by President on New York Times
-Access to White House functions
-Swedish Prime Minister’s comment
-Olaf Palme
-Kissinger’s conversation with Rogers
-US-Vietnam strategy
-Rogers
-Recall of ambassador
**********************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[National Security]
[Duration: 22s ]
SWEDEN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
**********************************************************************
-Conspiracy theory
-Leaking of papers
-Leslie H. Gelb role
-Rand Corporation role
-Neil Sheehan
-Coincidence of events
-Clark M. Clifford statements
-New York Times story
-Veterans
35
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
Vietnam War
-Congressional resolutions
-Marlow W. Cook and Ted Stevens
-Clark McGregor
-Provisions
-Release of Prisoners of War [POWs]
-US withdrawal Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
Kissinger’s assessment
State dinner
-President's meeting with Brandt
-Kissinger attendance
-Rational
-Contact with Brandt
-Contact with Egon Bahr
-Meeting for the Record
-Rush, Egon Bahr, Kissinger meeting
-Thursday breakfast
International relations
-US-PRC contacts
-US-Soviet Union contacts
-Effect of New York Times story
-Image of President's domestic strength
-Cambodia
-Laos operation (Lam Son)
-North Vietnam relations
-Possible summit with Soviet Union
-Effect of US-Soviet Union and US-PRC contacts
-President's meeting with Congressmen and Senators
-President's initiatives
-Berlin agreement
-Benefits
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-US-PRC contacts
-Effect on Soviet Union
-Rationale for Meeting with Antoliy F. Dobrynin
-Rogers role
-SALT
New York Times story
36
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Effect on intellectual establishment
-Cooks-Stevens legislation
-Calls to President
-Joseph McCarthy analogy
Scheduling
-H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Kissinger’s schedule Conv. No. 521-13 (cont.)
-President's schedule
-Tempo of events
-The President schedule
-Forthcoming trip to Florida
-Kissinger
**********************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[National Security]
[Duration: 56s ]
PRC
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
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Message to Rush
-Personnel
The President and Henry A. Kissinger left at 6:03 pm.
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