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522–2
  • President Richard M. Nixon
  • H. R. Haldeman
  • Ronald L. Ziegler
  • Stephen B. Bull
  • Henry A. Kissinger
  • White House operator
  • Egon Bahr
  • Ellsworth F. Bunker
June 16, 1971
Conversation No. 522-2

Date: June 16, 1971
Time: 10:39 am - 12:07 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

Pentagon Papers
-Administration response
-John D. Ehrlichman role
-Strengths
-Charles W. Colson
-John N. Mitchell

Domestic issues
-Florida barge canal
-Ehrlichman’s role
-Alaskan pipeline

President's schedule
-George P. Shultz
-Shultz and Ehrlichman's access to President
-Henry A. Kissinger's access
-Preparation for visits
-Shultz access

Ehrlichman's staff
-Domestic issues
-Effort of staff
-Williamsburg
-Daughters of the American Revolution [DAR]
-Press conferences
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-Focus

Pentagon Papers
-Ehrlichman
-Assignment of roles to staff
-Background
-Need for leadership in administration
-Richard A. Moore
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-William L. Safire
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-John A. Scali
-Qualities
-Kissinger’s role
-Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
-Impact
-War issue and domestic issues
-Administration handling of Vietnam
-Department of Justice
-Use of White House staff
-Ehrlichman

Domestic issues
-Ehrlichman
-Shultz
-Coverage by press
-Shultz
-Rochester speech
-Ehrlichman
-Need for domestic coverage
-Birmingham, Alabama speech
-President's schedule
-Domestic issues
-Public view of issues
-Use of press conferences
-Gallup poll
-Relative importance of issues
-Vietnam
-Economy
-Drugs
-Drugs' previous performance
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-Vietnam fluctuations
-Pollution
-Constituency demographics
-Gallup poll
-Methodology
-Timing
-Previous polls
-Formation of questions Conv. No. 522-2 (cont.)
-New York Times problem
-Rochester speech
-Interest of listeners
-Previous speeches
-Topics
-Domestic Council
-Administration accomplishments
-Speech coverage by press
-Tone of speech
-Rochester speech
-Need for revenue sharing
-Ehrlichman
-Buchanan
-Order of topics

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 10:59 am.

-Release of information before speech
-William P. Rogers’ statement
-Presidential statement
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield activities
-Kissinger’s role
-Scali role
-Winston Lord role
-Robert C. Mardian

Campaign Financing
-Bluhdorn meeting
-Meeting with campaign contributors
-Ambassadorships
-Italy
-Amounts

Briefing
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-Ziegler role
-Gerald L. Warren role
-Flexibility
-Coverage of new ground
-Comment on Times story
-Comment on Mansfield action
-Scali and Mansfield’s meeting
-Mansfield intentions Conv. No. 522-2 (cont.)
-Hearings
-Vietnam involvement
-Tie to Times activities
-Comments on Times story
-Administration handling of Vietnam
-Rogers television comments
-Speculation on original Vietnam involvement
-Publication of classified information
-Lyndon B. Johnson and John F. Kennedy administration
-Robert S. McNamara
-Clark M. Clifford
-Current administration posture
-Formation of issues
-Administration response
-Comments on Mansfield action
-Administration concern with history
-Release of facts
-Comments on publication of classified material
-Defense of national interest
-Pearl Harbor information
-Release
-Sun Times
-Administration view of secrecy
-Protection of previous administrations
-Obligation to protect governmental process
-Current secret discussions
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Mutual and Balance Force Reduction [MBFR]
-Berlin
-Vietnam
-Reasons for secrecy
-Rogers coverage
-Efficacy of statement by President
-Other statements
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-Scali
-Kissinger
-Colson
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Mardian
-State Department

Conv. No. 522-2 (cont.)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Privacy]
[Duration: 17s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

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Times story [Pentagon Papers]
-Scali's previous conversation with Rogers
-Identification of leaker
-Daniel Ellsberg
-Newsweek article
-Tip from McNamara
-[David ?] Norman interview of Ellsberg
-Action against Ellsberg
-Political beliefs
-Rationale for action
-Penalty for action
-Murray I. Gurfein role in legal battle
-Rogers
-Thomas E. Dewey background
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Preparation for case
-Herbert Brownell
-Action against Ellsberg
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] role
-Newsweek story
-Effect of publication on national interest
-Definition of issue
-Complicating factors
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-Types of classified material
-Briefing book for President
-Willy Brandt meeting
-MBFR
-Berlin
-SALT
-Effect of publication on negotiations
-Public negotiations Conv. No. 522-2 (cont.)
-Effectiveness
-Ehrlichman to Herbert E. Kaplow
-Secrecy
-Response to Kaplow
-Publication of Franklin D. Roosevelt's efforts to enter World War II
-Emotional nature of Vietnam
-Implication of past administration
-Effect of injunction
-Upcoming Kennedy disclosures
-Naming of papers
-Kennedy-Johnson
-Effect of injunction
-Upcoming Kennedy disclosures

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:59 am.

President's schedule
-Kissinger and Bunker meeting with President

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:21 am.

New York Times story [Pentagon Papers]
-Administration counter action
-Times access to White House staff
-Times place in pools
-Future comments regarding Times
-Scali
-Ehrlichman
-Kissinger
-Kissinger attendance at upcoming gathering

Drugs
-Bipartisan meeting June 17
-Effect
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-Statement by President
-Krogh and Ehrlichman’s effort
-Description of program

Kissinger entered at 11:21 am.

-Expenditures
-Public relations effect Conv. No. 522-2 (cont.)
-Dan Rather comments

Haldeman and Ziegler left at 11:22 am.

Pentagon Papers
-Kissinger calls to Rockefeller, John B. Anderson and Johnson regarding Times story
-Anderson efforts
-Johnson efforts
-Rockefeller's view of problem
-Impact on public
-Rockefeller action
-Public comment
-Rockefeller role on Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [PFIAB]

Kissinger/Ellsworth Bunker talk
-Bunker action
-Kissinger activities

President's schedule
-Bunker schedule

Federal Republic of Germany [FRG] and US relations
-Brandt toast at previous evening dinner
-Allusion to Vietnam
-Allusion to Pakistan
-Lack of \"Grace Notes\"
-Kissinger’s call to Egon Bahr
-Brandt’s upcoming meeting with US press
-Brandt Debt to US
-President’s view
-Mansfield Amendment
-Monetary policy
-Berlin negotiations
-Brandt trip with Hubert H. Humphrey to Woodrow Wilson Center
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-Use by Humphrey
-Kissinger’s call to Bahr
-President's comments to Rogers
-Domestic German political atmosphere
-Kissinger
-Franz Josef Strauss
-Contrast to Swedish Prime Minister and Danish Prime Minister
-Left wing activity Conv. No. 522-2 (cont.)

[Kissinger spoke with the White House operator at an unknown time between 11:22 am and
11:32 am]
[Conversation No. 522-2a]

[See Conversation No. 5-91]

[End of Telephone Conversation]

FRG and US relations
-Berlin negotiations
-Brandt comments to US press
-Support of the Presidents
-Role of \"Left\" Around the World
-Confidence in Great Britain


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[National Security]
[Duration: 8s ]


EUROPEAN AFFAIRS


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[Kissinger spoke with Bahr at an unknown time between 11:22 am and 11:32 am]
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[Conversation No. 522-2b]

[See Conversation No. 5-92]

Ellsworth F. Bunker entered at 11:32 am.

[End of Telephone Conversation]
Conv. No. 522-2 (cont.)
FRG-US relations
-German leaders


An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 11:32 am.

President's schedule
-Press photo session
-Arrangement
-Document security

The Press entered at 11:40 am.

[Camera noise]

The unknown person and press left at an unknown time before 11:40 am.

President's schedule

FRG-US relations
-Kissinger’s conversation with Bahr
-Explanation of Brandt toast
-Perception of toast
-Follow up by Kissinger
-D[avid] Kenneth Rush
-Brandt

Vietnam
-US-South Vietnam meeting
-Benefits
-Drawbacks

Pentagon Papers
-Effect of Times story
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-Publication of Pearl Harbor documents
-Status
-Origination of leak
-Ellsberg
-Ellsberg reputation
-Extent of leak
-Method
-Extent of Rand Corporation's classified holdings Conv. No. 522-2 (cont.)
-Security
-Other Times stories
-Arthur K. Watson
-Army of the Republic of Vietnam [ARVN] status
-US withdrawals
-George S. McGovern-Mark O. Hatfield Amendment status

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 11:40 am.

President's Schedule
-Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
-Preparation for meeting

Butterfield left at 11:43 pm.

Vietnam
-US goal
-Defeat of domestic enemies
-Effect of President’s meeting with Nguyen Van Thieu
-Election effects
-US support
-Kissinger and Bunker’s contact with Thieu
-Vietnamese elections
-Duong Van Minh
-Nguyen Cao Ky prospects
-Ky and Minh deal


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[National Security]
[Duration: 2m 34s ]
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VIETNAM


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Conv. No. 522-2 (cont.)

-Drug Impact
-Effect on McGovern-Hatfield Amendment
-Involvement of South Vietnamese leadership
-Thieu



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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[National Security]
[Duration: 5s ]


FOREIGN AFFAIRS


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-Need for US action
-Thieu awareness
-Effect of Vietnamization
-South Vietnamese shake up
-New head of South Vietnamese Customs
-Thieu Needs
-Long-term economic assistance
-Kissinger authority during Thieu contacts
-Acceleration of modernization of weapons
-Laos (Lam Son) operation
-Effect of modern weapons
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-Command Problems
-Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
-US materiel
-The President’s instructions
-Air Support
-Thieu
-Laos (Lam Son) operation
-Up-coming dry season activity Conv. No. 522-2 (cont.)
-North Vietnamese tactics
-Size of attack planes
-US role
-Comparison with earlier efforts
-Future effects
-US budgetary problems
-Melvin R. Laird
-Priority shifts
-Role of air support
-Role of interdiction bombing
-Future effect
-Future offensive
-Laos
-Air support
-Tactical necessities
-Counter moves
-Economics
-US reforms
-Effect on price levels
-South Vietnamese Minister of Economy
-Thieu role
-Observer group's offer form Thieu
-Democrat and Republican roles
-Upcoming Adlai E. Stevenson and Bunker’s meeting
-Rationale
-Clark MacGregor
-Composition of previous group
-Richard M. Scammon
-Donald Herzberg of Rutgers University
-Dipandon (?) Of Georgetown
-Backgrounds
-Nature of South East Asian election
-Nature of Latin American elections
-Scammon role
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-Benefits
-Watson’s view
-Casualties
-Laos (Lam Son) operation
-Performance of ARVN
-Cambodia
-Abrams and Bunker efforts to change ARVN Commander
-Thieu and Bunker meeting Conv. No. 522-2 (cont.)
-Gen. Richard G. Stilwell [?]
-Abrams
-Minh
-Situation in South Vietnam
-Drugs
-Thieu election prospects
-Election details

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:43 am.

President's schedule

Bull Left at an unknown time before 12:07 pm.

Vietnam
-Upcoming Midway meeting with Thieu
-Public relations of Kissinger’s trip
-Department of State
-Laird
-Rogers
-Commitment to meet Thieu
-Bunker’s appreciation of President's support

Bunker and Kissinger left at 12:07 pm.
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