527–9

Conversation No. 527-9

Date: June 22, 1971
Time: 3:42 pm - 5:06 pm
Location: Oval Office
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The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
Pentagon Papers
-Congressional relations
-William P. Rogers and Melvin R. Laird activity
-Carl B. Albert
-Clark MacGregor
-Albert's role in Rogers and Laird visit
-Postponement Conv. No. 527-8 (cont.)
-Laird’s press statement
-Ronald L. Ziegler

Schedule
-Meeting with Spiro T. Agnew
-President's meeting with governors

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:46 pm.

-Press coverage

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:16 pm.

-Louie B. Nunn

Pentagon Papers
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Laird
-Laird's press statement
-Transcript from Laird to Ehrlichman
-President's meeting with leaders
-MacGregor

Ronald L. Ziegler, Gov. Linwood Holton, Gov. Arch A. Moore, Gov. Nunn, Edwin L. Harper
entered at 3:44 pm.

Greetings
-Photographs

John B. Connally

Tricia Nixon Cox's wedding
-Weather
-Replay on television
-Agnew
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Appalachian policy
-Concern of Appalachian governors
-Widening of concerned circle
-Bureaucratic problems
-Social Security programs
-Support for President in Appalachian states
-Future support Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
-Authorization bill
-Appropriations bill
-Edwin L. Harper
-House and Senate tension
-Prospects
-Appalachian Regional Commission [ARC] programs
-Feeling on Capitol Hill
-Appalachian history
-Political use
-Acceleration of public works
-Authorization compared to appropriations
-Necessary action
-Governors' statement on President's concern
-Difficulty of legislative action
-Priority of ARC activities
-Domestic Council
-Problems of legislation
-Support for legislation
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Potential Presidential veto
-Public statement
-Administration support for Appalachian legislation
-Contribution to revenue sharing program
-Governors' role
-Work on details
-Explanation of governors
-Legislators' stance
-Legislative action
-Need for successful legislation
-President's interest in program
-Prior statements
-Perception of people
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-Political impact
-Poll
-Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Appalachian political history

National issues
-President’s speech to the American Medical Association [AMA]
Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
-Conversation with unnamed doctor from Louisville, Kentucky
-Polls
-Value
-Pentagon Papers
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Muskie
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Rhetoric
-Barry M. Goldwater
-War in Vietnam
-Support for President
-Future value
-Economic

Appalachian policy
-Support from President
-Merits of legislation
-Commitment from President to Appalachia
-Humphrey
-Muskie
-Humphrey address
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Support for revenue sharing
-Wilbur D. Mills support
-Eventual bill

Welfare reform
-Support by legislators
-Family assistance
-Social Security
-Liberals' view
-Rationale
-Voting schedule
-Congressional tactics
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-Mills’ efforts
Photographs

Wedding of Tricia Nixon and Edward R.F. Cox
-Lucy A. Winchester's efforts
-Women in Kentucky
-West Virginia man
Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
Julie and [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Trips to West Virginia
-Massachusetts in contrast to the South
-Schools


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The press entered at an unknown time after 3:42 pm.

Ziegler left and Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 4:09 pm.

President’s schedule
-Upcoming meeting with Agnew
-Agnew’s upcoming trip

Press reception
-Photographs

General conversation

The press left at an unknown time before 4:16 pm.
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Pentagon Papers
-Administration response
-Johnson's reaction
-Robert S. McNamara's role
-Robert F. (“Bobby”) Kennedy
-McNamara's conduct
-Background on executive action
-Role of Secretaries

Butterfield left and Spiro T. Agnew entered at 4:14 pm.

Greetings

Best wishes for Vice President's trip

Farewell to governors

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at an unknown time after 4:14 pm.

Presentation of gifts
-Tie bar
-Secretaries
-Paper weights
-Gifts to Vice President

Holton. et al., left at 4:16 pm; Agnew remained.

Appalachian legislation
-Public works
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Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:16 pm.
Refreshment

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:48 pm.

Agnew's trip
-Agenda
-Phoenix, Arizona Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
-Speech to the Jaycees
-Hawaii
-Guam
-Korea
-Singapore
-Indonesia
-Malaysia
-Bombay, India
-Kuwait
-Saudi Arabia
-Jaycees speech
-Patrick J. Buchanan's statement
-Edwin [Surname unknown]

Pentagon Papers
-Public reaction
-Poll
-Publication of classified documents
-Confusion
-Selection by The Boston Globe

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 4:48 pm.

-John F. Kennedy's material
-Ngo Dinh Diem
-Frank S. Fitzsimmons
-Tom Flynn's effort
-Theft of information
-Walt W. Rostow speech
-Support for President
-Johnson's role in Vietnam
-Call for appearance before Senate
-Muskie
-Administration response
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-Court action
-Need for proper attack
-Penalties for use of classified material
-Prosecutions
-Daniel Ellsberg
-Ellsberg's former wife
-Public relations efforts
-\"Right to know\" emphasis Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
-Injunction proceedings
-John N. Mitchell
-Supreme Court appeal
-Timing of criminal proceedings
-Reproduction of papers
-Neil Sheehan
-Use of press pass
-Public reaction
-Confusion with war
-Confusion with Johnson
-Necessity of secrecy
-Johnson use
-Popularity of war
-Contingency plans
-Necessity
-President's plan
-Bombing
-Haiphong
-Dikes
-Implementation
-Public exposure
-Senate and House action
-Morality
-Reflection of voters
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield's action
-Marlow W. Cook-Ted Stevens amendment
-Future of Vietnam War
-Morality of New York Times
-History of Times stance
-Reaction to Democrat President
-Humphrey
-Ted Kennedy
-John F. Kennedy's actions
-Rationale
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-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson's comments
-Condemnation of Times

National politics
-Democrat candidate for President
-Kennedy
-Issues
-Foreign policy Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
-Upcoming successes
-Economy
-President's concern
-Role of timing
-Agnew concern
-Interest rates
-Confidence crisis
-Cook's conversation with Agnew
-Kentucky trip
-Congressional initiative
-MacGregor
-Media coverage of efforts
-Washington Post
-Johnson's history
-Muskie
-Humphrey
-Muskie
-Agnew's speech on Vietnam
-Preparation
-National Security Council [NSC] staff
-President's role in Vietnam
-Mansfield amendment
-President's Vietnam efforts
-Agnew's speech to Air Force Academy
-Vietnam solutions
-President's efforts in Vietnam
-Priorities
-Promises of action
-Pentagon Papers
-Coverage in airport press conference

Agnew's trip
-Korea
-Asian stops
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-Singapore
-Kuwait
-Saudi Arabia
-Zaire
-Ethiopian
-US ambassador
-Congressional background
-Dr. Minasse Haile Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
-E. Ross Adair
-Haile Selassie
-Attendance at Dwight D. Eisenhower funeral
-Kinshasa, Zaire
-Mobutu Sese Seko
-Nairobi, Kenya
-Saudi Arabia
-Customs in Africa
-Zaire
-African student riots
-Reaction by Mobutu
-Spain
-Judy, Susan, and Kim Agnew
-Francisco Franco party
-Franco
-Greetings from President
-Greetings from the President
-Rabat, Morocco
-US and Moroccan relations
-Contact with Royal family
-The President’s previous visit
-Spain
-Franco
-Juan Carlos
-Political situation
-Luis Carrero Blanco
-Gregorio Lopez Bravo
-Portugal
-Lisbon
-Beauty
-Africa
-Problems in South Africa
-Great Britain and France
-South Africa
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-Black population
-Selassie
-Background
-Mobutu's Role
-Jomo Kenyatta
-Benefits of trip
-Education
-Feel for Nations Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
-Tunisia
-Vietnam Comments
-Timing of Trip

[The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger at an unknown time between 4:16 pm and 4:48
pm]

[Conversation No. 527-9A]

Request for Kissinger’s presence

[End of telephone conversation]

Agnew's Asian trip
-Korea
-Visit to troops

Drug policy
-President's speech to the AMA
-Punishment of voluntary users
-Drug use to avoid military service
-Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe's answer
-Agnew's experience in World War II
-Marseilles, France
-Youth
-Difficulty
-Blame on society


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Kissinger entered at 4:48 pm.
Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
Kissinger's schedule

Agnew's trip
-Stop in Vietnam
-Implications
-Kissinger's trip
-Timing
-Benefits
-Troop morale
-Counter to Midway meeting cancellation
-Deferral of decision
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Kissinger's trip
-Publicity
-Thieu
-Vietnamese elections
-Nguyen Cao Ky
-Duong Van Minh
-Bunker’s view

Pentagon Papers
-Immorality of publication
-Democrats’ tactics
-Use of declassification procedures
-Encouragement to enemy
-Publication of irrelevant items
-Marketing of stolen goods
-Morality of Congress
-Pandering for support
-Rostow's speech
-Times coverage
-Southeast Asia coverage
-Johnson's administration in history
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Vietnam resolutions
-Kissinger's calls to Senators
-Reason for resolution
-Focus on President
-Focus on Hanoi
-Instructions to President
-Effects of resolution on negotiations Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
-Mansfield
-Prospects
-Cook
-Charles McC. Mathias, Jr.
-Kissinger's luncheon invitation
-Reelection prospects
-Future events
-Johnson
-Clark M. Clifford's statement during the war
-Rationale
-Democrat attack on US negotiating position

Pentagon Papers
-Court decisions on national security interest
-British formal diplomatic protest
-Basis
-Meeting between the Earl of Cromer and William P. Rogers
-Exposure of classified information
-Court decisions
-Liberal establishment
-Murray J. Gurfein
-Left wing Republicans
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Thomas E. Dewey
-Jacob K. Javits
-Javits’ comments
-MacGregor
-Kissinger's response
-Protection of human rights
-Johnson

Agnew's trip
-Agenda
-Korea
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-Vietnam trip
-Schedule
-Date of NSC meeting

Agnew left at 5:03 pm.

Kissinger's schedule
-Mansfield breakfast Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
-Information available to Mansfield
-Kissinger's comments to Republicans
-Jack R. Miller
-President's comments to leaders
-Hugh Scott

President's schedule
-Mansfield breakfast
-President's comments
-Rationale
-MacGregor
-Historical record

Vietnam negotiations
-Status
-Indochinese ceasefire
-Mansfield
-US offer

Kissinger left at 5:06 pm.