588–2

Conversation No. 588-2

Date: October 11, 1971
Time: 11:31 am - 2:13 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Aldo Moro, Edgido Ortona, Henry A. Kissinger, and Neil A. Seidenman;
members of the press were present at the beginning of this meeting.

Salutations
-Moro
-John A. Volpe

Photographs

Southern California

Members of the press left at an unknown time after 11:31 am.
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The President's welcome to Moro
-Moro's schedule
-United Nations [UN]
-Italy
-Foreign policy

Moro's remarks to the President
-Outlook for the future
-Italian foreign policy
-US
-Italian coalition government
-Italian domestic situation
-Forthcoming election
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Communist Party

The President's analysis of world situation
-Free world nations
-Italy, Germany, France, Great Britain
-USSR
-Asia
-Japan
-Future of the world
-American foreign relations
-Italy, France, Germany, Great Britain, Japan
-US role
-Importance
-Communist countries
-Chad

World problems
-The President’s view
-William P. Rogers
-Previous meeting with Moro
-UN
-Possible expulsions
-The President’s view
-Possible effect
-US congress
-Implications
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Italian foreign policy
-Moro’s view
-European community participation
-Relations with the US
-UN
-People's Republic of China [PRC]
-US initiative
-US position
-Italy's position
-Domestic situation
-US diplomacy
-The President’s view
-Kissinger
-Comments

Italian-American relations
-Moro’s view
-Ambassador exchanges

Taiwan-PRC relations
-The President's reply
-Kissinger
-UN
-USSR example
-Representation
-PRC
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-Italian domestic political situation
-The President's view
-US domestic concern

Moro's observations
-Middle East
-US efforts
-Israel and Egypt
-Positions
-Suez Canal
-Rogers efforts
-The president's reply
-Italy's role
-Moro's view
-Italy's objective
-US support

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:31 am.

The President’s schedule
-Sons of Italy

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:18 pm.
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Economic situation
-John B. Connally
-US objective

Americo Cortese, Peter Gay, Frank Montemuro, Paul Landi, Nicholas Cipriani, William Cercone
and John A. Volpe and members of the press entered at 12:18 pm.

Greetings

Introductions
-[Unintelligible]
-Standard of Ohio

Photo opportunity

Presentation to Moro

The President's presentation of gifts
-Columbus Day
-Paper weights
-Golf balls

Herbert G. Klein

Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

Expressions of appreciation

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 12:26 pm.

[Unintelligible]

Moro et al. left at 12:27 pm; Butterfield and Volpe remained.

The President's schedule
-Butterfield
-Unknown person's telephone call to Volpe

Volpe left at 12:29 pm.

Weather
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The President left and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 12:29 pm.

Proposal

Connally

The President entered and Butterfield left at 12:30 pm.

Weather

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and
12:31 pm.

[Conversation No. 588-2A]

[See Conversation No. 11-32]

[End of telephone conversation]

Poll
-Popular approval of Nixon
-George Meany

The President talked with John N. Mitchell between 12:31 pm and 12:34 pm.

[Conversation No. 588-2B]

[See Conversation No. 11-33]

[End of telephone conversation]

Supreme Court appointment
-Mildred L. Lillie
-Catholic
-Husband
-Italian

The President talked with White House operator at 12:35 pm.

[Conversation No. 588-2C]
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[See Conversation No. 11-34]

[End of telephone conversation]

-Name background

The President talked with John N. Mitchell between 12:35 pm and 12:36 pm.

[Conversation No. 588-2D]

[See Conversation No. 11-35]

[End of telephone conversation]

Supreme Court appointment
-Lillie
-Husband, A.V. Falcone
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Haldeman
-Wife's position on Women's Liberation
-Woman appointee
-Lillie
-Position
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Richard H. Poff
-Lillie
-Position on a woman appointee
-Mitchell
-Robert C. Byrd
-James O. Eastland
-Steve [Surname unintelligible]
-Horatio Alger story
-Membership in organizations
-The President’s view
-Judicial views
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Polls
-Approval ratings
-Meany's position
-Compared with the President’s position
-Labor
-The President's economic program
-Federal action
-Strikes
-Anti-inflation program
-The President's economic plan
-Union compared with non-union workers
-Meany
-Louis P. Harris
-Charles W. Colson

Media
-Reporting
-Local stations
-Public broadcasting

Gen. Albert Redman of White House Communications Agency [WHCA]

Forthcoming trip to PRC
-Dwight L. Chapin's preparation for PRC trip
-Kissinger
-Peter G. Peterson
-Use of telephones by staff
-The President's 1959 visit to USSR
-Redman
-Secret Service
-Car
-Ground station communications and media station
-Boeing 747
-Set-up
-Capability
-Instructions for Kissinger
-Inspection by PRC
-Communications
-Telephones
-Use by the President
-Speaker of the House, Carl B. Albert
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-Ground station
-Purpose
-Congress
-Videotapes
-John A. Scali
-Public interest
-Europe
-American networks
-Coverage
-Kissinger
-Rogers
-Secret Service car
-The President's experience with Soviets
-Yugoslavs
-Rumanians
-Chinese
-Use of car
-The President’s view
-Communications
-Secret Service
-Secretaries
-Kissinger
-Women
-Rose Mary Woods
-Military men
-Ability
-Navy yeomen
-Stewards
-Women accompanying the President to PRC
-Woods
-Chou En-lai
-Mrs. Nixon
-Adele (Langston) Rogers
-Woods
-Kissinger
-Mrs. Nixon
-Rogers
-Public relations
-Constance M. Stuart
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-John A. Scali
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-Klein
-USSR
-Robert H. Finch
-Donald H. Rumsfeld

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 12:36 pm.

Polls

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 2:13 pm.

-Unions
-Meany compared with Nixon
-Ehrlichman
-Strength
-Strikes
-Harris
-US economy
-The President's handling

News magazines
-Evaluation
-Kissinger
-Disney World
-Time, Newsweek articles
-Life
-Florida economy
-Television special

The President's schedule
-Disney World
-Television special
-Republican women event
-Walt Disney's widow
-Haldeman’s role
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Press story
-Veracity

Newspapers
-Ziegler
-Los Angeles Times
-Newsday
-Claude Irwin
-Roland Evans and Robert D. Novak
-Administration’s dealings
-The President’s view
-Marty Schram’s article
-Haldeman’s view
-New York Times
-Robert B. Semple, Jr.
-Administration's relations
-Klein
-Editorial policy
-Max Frankel
-Semple
-Los Angeles Times
-Administration’s position
-Irwin
-Semple
-Kissinger
-Availability to press
-Romana A. Banuelos
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Newspaper story on Banuelos
-[Forename unknown] Rosenberg
-Harry Bernstein
-Justice Department
-Mitchell
-Los Angeles office

Evans and Novak
-Kissinger
-Book
-Foreign policy
-Richard J. Whalen's review
-Access to White House staff
-Kissinger
-William L. Safire
-Rumsfeld
-Finch
-Rogers C. B. Morton
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Jimmy Allison
-Hugh Scott
-Clark MacGregor
-Columns
-J. Edgar Hoover
-Jack N. Anderson
-Approach
-William C. Sullivan
-Responses

Television
-Comments regarding the President's Phase II economic speech
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Edith Effron
-Theory of network intent
-Novak, et al.
-Compared with isolation presentation
-Slanting of presentations
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Media
-The President’s Phase II speech
-Peter Lisagor
-Revenue sharing speech
-Mark Hueres [?]
-Ziegler
-Safire
-Possible administration approach
-New York Times
-James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
-Los Angeles Times
-Otis Chandler
-Norman Buck
-Washington Post
-Relations with editorial boards
-Associated Press [AP], United Press International [UPI], Scripps-Howard
-The President's memories of the campaign
-Klein
-UPI

The President's schedule

Press
-Coverage of church services
-Mrs. Nixon
-Mitchell

Pictures

The President's schedule
-Press briefing, October 12, 1971
-Bipartisan meeting
-Leaders' meeting
-F. Edward Hebert
-Cabinet meeting
-Phase II
-George P. Shultz
-Ziegler
-Announcement of US-USSR Summit
-Kissinger
-Rogers
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-Editorial writers
-Pittsburgh
-Phase II
-Oklahoma City
-Vermont Royster
-World Series
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-Film work
-Robert P. Griffin [?] birthday salute
-March of Dimes
-National Association of Manufacturers [NAM]
-Connally, James D. Hodgson, Maurice H. Stans, Paul W. McCracken,
Herbert Stein
-Possible radio statement
-Charles H. Percy
-Chicago
-Testimonial dinner
-Griffin
-State Department
-Singapore
-International Telecommunications Satellite [INTELSAT]
-Morocco
-Television stations
-Sickle cell anemia
-Gerald R. Ford
-Mrs. Nixon, Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Telephone calls
-Griffin
-Percy
-Otto Passman
-Grand Commander of the Conference of English-speaking Scottish [Unintelligible]
Free Masonry and Supreme Council in Amity
-Congressmen petition
-Support for Taiwan
-UN
-Possible presentation to the President
-Clement P. Zablocki, Joe D. Waggonner, Robert L.F. Sikes, Unintelligible
Name, William J. Scherle, and Passman
-George H.W. Bush
-Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
-Ceremonial duties
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-The President’s position
-INTELSAT events
-Sickle cell anemia
-NAM events
-Republicans
-Radio
-Percy and Griffin
-[Forename unknown] Miller
-Television
-Radio
-Telephone calls
-Visit of Robert S. McNamara
-Mayor and Chief of Police of Washington, D.C.
-Crime
-Ehrlichman
-Harris
-Colson
-Fort Detrick
-Cancer research, biological warfare laboratory
-Possible visit by Prime Minister of Turkey
-Kissinger
-National Municipal League
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare
-American Nurses Association
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Salvation Army
-Norman Vincent Peale
-New York
-New York Hilton
-Mrs. Nixon
-Knights of Columbus
-Volpe
-Presidential box at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
-President Hubert Maga
-Republic of Dahomey
-Reaction
-Visit to UN General Assembly
-American Federation of Labor-Council of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]
-State Department
-Vietnam Prisoner of War [POW] resolution
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-African nations
-Louise Gore
-United Nations Educational, Social and Cultural Organization [UNESCO]
-Richardson
-Frank Shakespeare
-Kissinger

Chief Zosimo T. Monzon
-Military record
-Future plans
-Family life
-The President’s appreciation and support
-Family
-Possible future assignment
-Lyndon B. Johnson's staff as ex-President
-Vocation


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PRC


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Walter J. Hickel
-Future role in government
-Alaska development
-Stans
-Mitchell
-USSR
-Siberia
-Kissinger
-Plans

Buchanan
-Briefing Book
-Press Conferences
-Staff morale

The President's schedule
-Film appearances
-Standard Oil
-Big business
-Connally, Hodgson
-Eisenhower Theatre
-Opening
-Reception
-Mrs. Nixon
-Alice Marriott
-North Carolina
-Trip
-Connally
-Idanell B. (“Nellie”) Connally
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-Charles R. Jonas
-Size of delegation


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-Congressional delegation
-Wives
-Sects on Air Force One
-The President's planes, Air Force One
-Maintenance and refurbishing
-Gen. James D. Hughes
-Air Force
-Back-up plane
-George H. Mahon
-Purposes
-PRC trip
-USSR trip
-Old Air Force One
-Rogers
-PRC trip
-USSR trip
-Campaign
-Very Important Persons [VIPs]

Unions
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Public support for the President's economic policies
-Prospects in good times
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Unemployment


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An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 12:30 pm.

Item for the President

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 2:13 pm.

Press
-Announcement of Soviet Summit

Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:30 pm.

The President's schedule
-Meeting with Shultz
-Executive Office Building [EOB]

Bull left at an unknown time before 2:13 pm].

-Shultz and Rumsfeld
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The President's schedule
-Meany

The President and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman left at 2:13 pm.