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801–16
- President Richard M. Nixon
- John D. Ehrlichman
- Julie Nixon Eisenhower
- White House operator
- Corrine Clairborne "Lindy" Boggs
- Stephen B. Bull
- Robert J. Brown
- Gale E. Sayers
October 17, 1972
Conversation No. 801-16
Date: October 17, 1972
Time: 11:26 am - 12:10 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
Airplane crash
- [Thomas] Hale Boggs
-Status as missing
-Conditions in Alaska
-Example of another airplane crash
-Release of information
-Possible White House control
The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower between 11:30 am and 11:32 am.
[Conversation No. 801-16A]
[See Conversation No. 31-102; one item has been withdrawn]
[End of telephone conversation]
Boggs's airplane crash
The President talked with the White House operator at 11:33 am.
[Conversation No. 801-16B]
[See Conversation No. 31-103]
[End of telephone conversation]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Congress
-William J. Fulbright
-The President's previous conversation with Frank E. Fitzsimmons
The President talked with Corrine (Claiborne) (“Lindy”) Boggs between 11:33 am and 11:34 am.
[Conversation No. 801-16C]
[See Conversation No. 31-104]
[End of telephone conversation]
Congress
-Possible rejection of the Administration’s spending limit by Senate
-Public relations efforts by the Administration
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Possible statement
-Result in higher taxes
-Use of term “AWOL” to describe Congress
-Water bill
-The President’s forthcoming veto
-House of Representatives schedule
-Quorum
-William E. Timmons
-Senate
-Possible override
The President’s possible radio address
-Tax reform
-William L. Safire’s view
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Issues
-Tax reform
-Safire’s view
-Polling results
-The President’s forthcoming press conference
-Chicago
-Proposed legislation
-Property tax relief
-Timing
-Effect of 1972 election
-Possible Vietnam War settlement
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Effect on 1972 election
-Benefits of possible stalemate
-Polling results
-Number of undecided voters
-Tax reform
-The President’s possible radio address
-George P. Shultz
-Parochial school aid
-Charles W. Colson
-Possible letter from the President
-Court case in Pennsylvania
-Comparison to Lemon v. Kurtzman
-Solicitor General [Erwin N. Griswold]
-Possible letter from the President
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Cardinal Terence Cooke
-New York
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Colson
-The President’s previous meeting with Cooke and Catholic
lawyers
-Tax reform
-Lawyer for parochial schools
-Radio speeches
-Paternalism [Philosophy of Government]
-Veterans
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Urban affairs
32
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Price
-Lee W. Huebner
-“American Spirit”
-Farmers
Legislation
-Social Security
-Costs
-Payroll taxes
-Arthur S. Flemming
-Colson
-Flemming
-Concerns of senior citizens
-Possible pocket veto
-Indian lands bill
-Wendell Wyatt
-State chairman of Oregon
Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:34 am.
Gale E. Sayers
-Robert J. Brown
-Support for the President
-Forthcoming meeting with the President
-National Advisory Council for Drug Abuse Prevention meeting
Bull left at an unknown time before 11:54 am.
Indian lands bill
-Wyatt’s view
-Oregon
-Cost of bill
-Editorial page reactions in Oregon
-Possible signing ceremony
-Wyatt
-Mark O. Hatfield
-Wayne L. Morse
-Robert W. Packwood
-Labor legislation
-John R. Dellenback
33
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Legislation
-Vetoes
-Spending issue
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB] analysis
-Water bill
-Departments of Labor and Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
appropriations bill
-Social Security bill
Brown, Sayers and Paul R. Jones entered at 11:54 am; the White House photographer was
present at the beginning of the meeting.
Introductions
-Domestic council
Ehrlichman left at 11:55 am.
[Photograph session]
-Oval Office
-Flags of branches of military services
Oval Office
-Painting
-Architecture
-Potomac River
-Design by Theodore Roosevelt
-Presidential seal
-Rug
-Puerto Rico
-Dwarf tree
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
Sayers
-Work with youth
-Television [TV]
-Youth
-Need for role models
Minority business programs
-The Administration’s efforts
-Automobile dealerships
-Edward Davis
34
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Detroit
-Increase in black-owned dealerships
Presentation of gift by the President
-Cuff links
-Golf balls
Sayers
-Background
-Kansas
-Omaha, Nebraska
-Chicago Bears
-Effect on youth
Blacks
-Support for the President
-Efforts of the Administration
-Economic opportunities for blacks
-Black ownership of businesses
-Automobile dealerships
-Food vendors
-Example of the President’s father’s [Frank Nixon’s] career as a
grocer
-Example of Harlem
-Preponderance of Jewish-owned businesses
-Leon H. Sullivan
-Shopping centers
-Sayers's prospects to help blacks
-Day care center
-Chicago
-Number of people on welfare
-House Resolution [HR] 1
Football
-The President’s viewing of October 16, 1972 football game
-The President's efforts at Whittier College
-Washington Redskins
-George Preston Marshall
-Composition of team
-Whites, blacks
-Jim Brown
-The President’s previous conversation with Marshall
35
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-The President’s viewing of Detroit Lions–Green Bay Packers game, October 16,
1972
-Composition of teams
-Detroit Lions
-Steve Owens
-Heisman trophy winner
-Altie Taylor
-Mel Farr
-Green Bay Packers
-John Brockington
-MacArthur Lane
-Examples for minorities
-Opportunity to field best possible team through racial diversity
Baseball
-World Series
-Emphasis on players’ abilities rather than player’s race
Race relations
-Possible conflict between blacks and whites
-Irish
-Italians
-Blacks
-Need for upward mobility
-Care for the poor
-Food stamps
-Need for upward mobility
-Politics
-Business
-Law
-Athletics
Athletes
-Support for the Administration
-Cleveland Browns
-Work with youth
-Post-1972 election plans
-Sayers’s view
-Support for the President
-Sammy Davis, Jr.
-The President's speech in Atlanta, October 12, 1972
36
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Presentation of gifts
-Sayers’s children
-Tie clasps
-Charm
-Golf ball
Sayers's retirement from professional football
-Knee injury
-Sayers’s activities
-Retirees from professional football
-The President’s instructions to Robert Brown
-Possible study
-Pensions
-Sayers’s discussions with Alvin Ray (“Pete”) Rozelle
-Washington Redskins
Washington Redskins
Sayers et al. left at 12:10 pm.
Date: October 17, 1972
Time: 11:26 am - 12:10 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
Airplane crash
- [Thomas] Hale Boggs
-Status as missing
-Conditions in Alaska
-Example of another airplane crash
-Release of information
-Possible White House control
The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower between 11:30 am and 11:32 am.
[Conversation No. 801-16A]
[See Conversation No. 31-102; one item has been withdrawn]
[End of telephone conversation]
Boggs's airplane crash
The President talked with the White House operator at 11:33 am.
[Conversation No. 801-16B]
[See Conversation No. 31-103]
[End of telephone conversation]
30
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Congress
-William J. Fulbright
-The President's previous conversation with Frank E. Fitzsimmons
The President talked with Corrine (Claiborne) (“Lindy”) Boggs between 11:33 am and 11:34 am.
[Conversation No. 801-16C]
[See Conversation No. 31-104]
[End of telephone conversation]
Congress
-Possible rejection of the Administration’s spending limit by Senate
-Public relations efforts by the Administration
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Possible statement
-Result in higher taxes
-Use of term “AWOL” to describe Congress
-Water bill
-The President’s forthcoming veto
-House of Representatives schedule
-Quorum
-William E. Timmons
-Senate
-Possible override
The President’s possible radio address
-Tax reform
-William L. Safire’s view
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 3m 53s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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31
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Issues
-Tax reform
-Safire’s view
-Polling results
-The President’s forthcoming press conference
-Chicago
-Proposed legislation
-Property tax relief
-Timing
-Effect of 1972 election
-Possible Vietnam War settlement
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Effect on 1972 election
-Benefits of possible stalemate
-Polling results
-Number of undecided voters
-Tax reform
-The President’s possible radio address
-George P. Shultz
-Parochial school aid
-Charles W. Colson
-Possible letter from the President
-Court case in Pennsylvania
-Comparison to Lemon v. Kurtzman
-Solicitor General [Erwin N. Griswold]
-Possible letter from the President
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Cardinal Terence Cooke
-New York
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Colson
-The President’s previous meeting with Cooke and Catholic
lawyers
-Tax reform
-Lawyer for parochial schools
-Radio speeches
-Paternalism [Philosophy of Government]
-Veterans
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Urban affairs
32
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Price
-Lee W. Huebner
-“American Spirit”
-Farmers
Legislation
-Social Security
-Costs
-Payroll taxes
-Arthur S. Flemming
-Colson
-Flemming
-Concerns of senior citizens
-Possible pocket veto
-Indian lands bill
-Wendell Wyatt
-State chairman of Oregon
Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:34 am.
Gale E. Sayers
-Robert J. Brown
-Support for the President
-Forthcoming meeting with the President
-National Advisory Council for Drug Abuse Prevention meeting
Bull left at an unknown time before 11:54 am.
Indian lands bill
-Wyatt’s view
-Oregon
-Cost of bill
-Editorial page reactions in Oregon
-Possible signing ceremony
-Wyatt
-Mark O. Hatfield
-Wayne L. Morse
-Robert W. Packwood
-Labor legislation
-John R. Dellenback
33
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Legislation
-Vetoes
-Spending issue
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB] analysis
-Water bill
-Departments of Labor and Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
appropriations bill
-Social Security bill
Brown, Sayers and Paul R. Jones entered at 11:54 am; the White House photographer was
present at the beginning of the meeting.
Introductions
-Domestic council
Ehrlichman left at 11:55 am.
[Photograph session]
-Oval Office
-Flags of branches of military services
Oval Office
-Painting
-Architecture
-Potomac River
-Design by Theodore Roosevelt
-Presidential seal
-Rug
-Puerto Rico
-Dwarf tree
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
Sayers
-Work with youth
-Television [TV]
-Youth
-Need for role models
Minority business programs
-The Administration’s efforts
-Automobile dealerships
-Edward Davis
34
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Detroit
-Increase in black-owned dealerships
Presentation of gift by the President
-Cuff links
-Golf balls
Sayers
-Background
-Kansas
-Omaha, Nebraska
-Chicago Bears
-Effect on youth
Blacks
-Support for the President
-Efforts of the Administration
-Economic opportunities for blacks
-Black ownership of businesses
-Automobile dealerships
-Food vendors
-Example of the President’s father’s [Frank Nixon’s] career as a
grocer
-Example of Harlem
-Preponderance of Jewish-owned businesses
-Leon H. Sullivan
-Shopping centers
-Sayers's prospects to help blacks
-Day care center
-Chicago
-Number of people on welfare
-House Resolution [HR] 1
Football
-The President’s viewing of October 16, 1972 football game
-The President's efforts at Whittier College
-Washington Redskins
-George Preston Marshall
-Composition of team
-Whites, blacks
-Jim Brown
-The President’s previous conversation with Marshall
35
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-The President’s viewing of Detroit Lions–Green Bay Packers game, October 16,
1972
-Composition of teams
-Detroit Lions
-Steve Owens
-Heisman trophy winner
-Altie Taylor
-Mel Farr
-Green Bay Packers
-John Brockington
-MacArthur Lane
-Examples for minorities
-Opportunity to field best possible team through racial diversity
Baseball
-World Series
-Emphasis on players’ abilities rather than player’s race
Race relations
-Possible conflict between blacks and whites
-Irish
-Italians
-Blacks
-Need for upward mobility
-Care for the poor
-Food stamps
-Need for upward mobility
-Politics
-Business
-Law
-Athletics
Athletes
-Support for the Administration
-Cleveland Browns
-Work with youth
-Post-1972 election plans
-Sayers’s view
-Support for the President
-Sammy Davis, Jr.
-The President's speech in Atlanta, October 12, 1972
36
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Presentation of gifts
-Sayers’s children
-Tie clasps
-Charm
-Golf ball
Sayers's retirement from professional football
-Knee injury
-Sayers’s activities
-Retirees from professional football
-The President’s instructions to Robert Brown
-Possible study
-Pensions
-Sayers’s discussions with Alvin Ray (“Pete”) Rozelle
-Washington Redskins
Washington Redskins
Sayers et al. left at 12:10 pm.
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