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Conversation No. 861-14

Date: February 22, 1973
Time: 11:47 am - 12:21 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Charles S. Rhyne; the White House photographer was present at the
beginning of the meeting.

Greetings

Photographs

Wallace Wade
-Coaching at Duke University
-Record
-Professional coaching
-Invitation to the White House
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National Institute of Justice Commission
-Warren E. Burger
-Membership
-Origins
-American Bar Association [ABA]
-Compared with National Science Foundation [NSF]
-Controversial topics in justice
-Legal education, police, prosecutors
-President’s administration
-Conflict with Chief Justice Burger
-Law Enforcement Assistance Act [LEAA]
-Conflict
-Criminal justice system
-Problems
-Labor, ABA, industry support
-Recommendations
-Organization
-1972 campaign
-Newspapers

Lawyers
-Conservatism
-Judges

Rhyne's proposal
-Need for reform of justice system
-Malcolm Wilkey
-President's interest in commission
-Report
-Meeting with the President
-Cabinet

Publicity
-Jaris Winter [?]
-Chief Justice Burger
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Prison system
-Investigation

State courts
-Investigation
-Federal courts

Federal agency
-Need for funds
-Purpose of money

Horace Jeremiah (“Jerry”) Voorhis

International affairs
-Support for the President
-US strength
-International law
-Agreements
-Federal law
-Permanency
-World Law Court
-State Department
-Support
-Problem of money
-Arm Control and Disarmament Agency [ACDA] budget
-The President's role
-Commission on international law
-Amount of money

International law
-Codification
-Rhyne’s talk with Haile Selassie
-Address to League of Nations
-Ethiopia
-Treaties
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-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-President’s role
-United Nations [UN]
-Capabilities
-General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade [GATT]
-US
-Leadership role
-Treaties
-Nigeria
-Selassie
-Compilation of laws and treaties
-Adherence
-World parliament

International compared to domestic justice
-Commission

President’s statements in support of justice
-Phrases

Rhyne's speech to Rotary Club
-Support for President

PRC
-Communique
-Liaison offices
-Washington, Peking
-Taiwan
-Significance
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Reaction
-President’s policies
-Dangers, opportunities

Laos
-Cease-fire agreement
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-Critics of the President’s policies
-Communist victory


Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:47 am.

President’s schedule
-Meeting

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:07 pm.

Laos agreement
-Souvanna Phouma
-North Vietnamese withdrawal

International peace and security
-India and Pakistan
-North and South Vietnam
-North and South Korea
-Communist and free world
-Differences in free world

International law
-Growth
-Common law
-Constitution
-World government
-Constitution framing
-League of Nations
-United Nations [UN]
-Common law
-US leadership role
-Need for justice
-Communists
-Justice system
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USSR
-Rhyne’s visit to Moscow
-Supreme Court
-Smeil [?] [First name unknown]
-Alexander K. Gorkin
-Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
-Meeting when President was Vice President
-Smirnoff [First name unknown]
-Aspirations

International law
-President's role in development

Rhyne's work
-Elections 1960, 1968, 1972

John D. Ehrlichman entered at 12:07 pm.

Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Conversation with Rhyne

Follow up meetings
-Ehrlichman and John W. Dean, III
-Joseph T. Sneed
-Commission

Rhyne left at 12:07 pm.

Meeting with Boy Scouts
-Norton Clapp, Chairman of Weyerhaeuser Company
-Contribution
-President of Boy Scouts

Norton Clapp, John Claerhout, George Freeman, Carl Marchetti, Randolph Scott, Gregory L.
Beck, Sylvia Elizabeth Foster, Peter Guastella, Alan R. Johnson, Willis J. Johnson, Frank Nilson
Martino, Jr., John Mason, Stanley Roach, John Scholten, Richard Stone, Harry Tobin, Timothy
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David Todd, William Lee England, Paul R. Ried, Amilcar Matos Perez, and Richard Louis Toler
entered at 12:13 pm.; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of this
meeting.

Photo session
-Lineup for photo
-President’s entrance
-Arrangements
-Presentation

Introduction
-President
-Ehrlichman [?]

[General conversation]

Members of the press entered at an unknown time after 12:07 pm.

Introduction
-Boy Scouts

Presentation of honorary award to the President
-Leaders
-Volunteers

Annual report to the President
-1972 Highlights
-Project Store [?]
-Conservation
-Project Reach
-Drug abuse prevention
-Explorers Congress
-Manual

Presentation of plaque, book and flag to President
-Regions
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-Book on flag

Physical fitness
-Colorado State University
-Plaque [?]

Boy Scout projects
-Significance
-Press coverage
-Drug abuse prevention
-Environment
-Volunteers
-Meetings with the President
-Military service
-Hope for peace

[Applause]

Tour of the White House

Presentation of gifts
-Tie bars
-Cuff links

[General conversation]

Ehrlichman, Clapp, et al., left at 12:21 pm.