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916-014a
- UNKNOWN
- Henry A. Kissinger
- President Richard M. Nixon
- Alexander M. Haig
- William P. Rogers
May 11, 1973
Conversation No. 916-14
Date: May 11, 1973
Time: 10:15 am - 12:03 pm
Location: Oval Office
Unknown man met with Henry A. Kissinger.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
President’s location
Statement [?]
The President entered and Haig left at an unknown time after 10:15 am.
Kissinger’s schedule
-Airplane flight
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Kissinger’s foreign travel
-Jet lag
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 10:15 am.
Refreshments
-Coffee
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:05 am.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
US-Soviet relations
-Kissinger’s memorandum [memo]
-President’s reaction
-William P. Rogers [?]
-Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Press announcement
-Timing
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Kissinger’s possible press briefing regarding trip to Soviet Union
-Possible impact on negotiations
-Kissinger’s statement at Moscow airport
-Strategy
-Timing of press announcement
Vietnam
-Paris Peace talks
-Kissinger’s trip
-Press announcement
-Le Duc Tho
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Leverage
-Bombing
-Cambodia
-President’s actions
-Congressional support
-December bombings
-Funds
-Bombing
-Need for funds
Cambodia
-Congressional vote on funds
-Bureaucratic mistake
-William E. Timmons
-Defense Department, State Department
-Robert Moot’s replacement as Comptroller
-Elliot L. Richardson
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
Defense Department
-Dr. James R. Schlesinger
-Compared with Richardson
-William P. Clements, Jr.
Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Joint Chiefs of Staff, Clements
-Soviet Union’s position
-JCS position
-Multiple Independently-Targetable Reentry Vehicle [MIRV]
-Possible effect
-Advantages to US
-President’s forthcoming memo
-Phraseology
-Congress, press
Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Forthcoming briefing of William P. Rogers
Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Forthcoming briefing of [David] Kenneth Rush
-Rogers
-Need for bureaucratic support
-Impact of Watergate scandal
-Great Britain’s assessment
-Protection of People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-European concerns
-Need for support from US ambassadors
-Possible effect on nuclear deterrence
-Great Britain’s enthusiasm
Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union and London
-Brezhnev’s dacha [retreat]
-Location
-Compared with Camp David
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Lifestyle of Communist leaders
Kissinger’s previous visit to London
-Messages from Edward R. G. Heath and [Maurice] Harold MacMillan to President
-Heath’s unofficial regards
-MacMillan’s letter to Walter H. Annenberg
Watergate
-Public interest
-Cabinet meeting
-Kissinger, President, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, and
Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Indictment of John N. Mitchell and Maurice H. Stans in Robert L. Vesco case
-Results of Vesco case
-Indictments
An unknown person entered the room at an unknown time after 10:15 am. [?]
Refreshments [?]
The unknown person left the room at an unknown time before 11:05 am. [?]
Messages from Heath and MacMillan
-President’s reaction
Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union
-Brezhnev’s schedule
-Activities
-Military motor boat
-Hunting
-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev
-Brezhnev’s opinion of President
-Invitation to President to visit Soviet Union
-Reception
President’s possible foreign travel
-Soviet Union
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Impact on focus on Watergate scandal
-Europe
-PRC
-Europe
-US relations
North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] meetings
-Timing
-Effect of possible European summit
-Great Britain
Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Possible European summit
-Resulting document
-Challenges
-Need for support
-Great Britain
-Kissinger’s meeting in London, May 10
-France
-Federal Republic of Germany
-Contrasted with Walter Scheel’s meeting with Rogers
Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union
-Positive reception
-Cable to President
-Banquet
Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Planning
-Activities
-Sequoia
-Camp David
-San Clemente
-Brezhnev’s expectations
-Lincoln
Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Brezhnev’s comments on mothers
-Brezhnev’s mother
-Hannah Milhous Nixon
-Brezhnev’s remarks at banquet
-Veracity
-Commitment
US-Soviet relations
-President’s legacy
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Potential for success
-Kissinger’s forthcoming briefings
-Rush
-State Department
-William J. Porter
-SALT negotiations
-Worries
-State Department [?]
-MIRVs
-Principles
-Kissinger’s role
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Significance
-Public relations
-Principles
-JCS
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft [?]
-Other agreements
-Nuclear exchanges, peaceful uses
-Cultural exchanges
-Transportation
-Environment
-Civil aviation
-Maritime
-Signings at forthcoming Soviet summit
-Communiqué
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Kissinger’s forthcoming briefing of Rogers
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-SALT
-Principles
-JCS
-Vietnam
-Brezhnev
-Military equipment
-President’s cables
-Scowcroft
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Impediment to negotiations
-Kissinger’s message to President
-Key Biscayne
-Instructions from President
-Scowcroft
-Brezhnev
-Reaction
-Acceptance of US terms
-Compared to Great Britain
-PRC
-Soviet Union attack
-Kissinger’s impressions
-Hunting
-Brezhnev’s private conversation with Kissinger
-Translation [Viktor M. Sukhodrev]
-Need for US-Soviet cooperation
-Prevention of PRC nuclear program
-Kissinger’s talks with PRC
-Global balance of power
-Brezhnev’s comments
-US politics
-1976 elections
-Need for Republican
Watergate
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin’s comments
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Indictments
-Stans and Mitchell
-Vesco
-Kissnger’s conversation with Dobrynin
-Amateur nature of break-in
-Dislike of Democrats
US-Soviet relations
-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev
-Brezhnev’s comments on Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Jackson-Vanick Amendment
-Jewish emigration
-Exit visas
-List of names
-President’s conversation with Senate Commerce Committee
-Modifications to legislation
-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev
-Possible effect on Jewish emigration
-Status of Jews in Soviet Union
-Ability to gain exit visas
-Possible in anti-Semitism
-Mutual and Balanced Force Reduction [MBFR]
-Timing
-Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe [CSCE]
-Middle East
-Potential for war
-Soviet principles
-Kissinger’s conversation with Sir Alexander F. (“Alec”) Douglas-Home
-Pro-Egypt stance
-Kissinger’s cable
-Kissinger’s conversation with Andrei A. Gromyko
-Brezhnev
-Strategy for negotiations
-1972 summit
-Principles
Middle East
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-US relations with Israel
-Arab position
-Possibility for interim agreement
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Hafez Ismail
-Paris Peace Talks with Le Duc Tho
-Rogers’s possible reaction
-Foreign service officer in Cairo [Joseph N. Greene, Jr. ?]
-Cables
-Kissinger’s forthcoming briefings
-Rogers and Joseph J. Sisco
-Foreign service officer in Cairo [Greene ?]
-Need for recall
Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Middle East, Vietnam
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-SALT
-Communiqué
-Bilateral treaties
-Rogers and Gromyko
-East Room
-Preparations
-Activities for Brezhnev
-Disneyland
-Hollywood
-Dinner
-Compared with John Ford
Southeast Asia
-Kissinger’s conversations with Brezhnev
-Vietnam
-Attacks by North Vietnam
-Impact of Watergate
-Possible US action
-Congress
-Effects on US-Soviet relations
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
US-European relations
-Willy Brandt
-Great Britain
-Possible Atlantic Charter
-Deputy foreign ministers
-Great Britain, France, Germany, US
-Sir Burke Trend
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Michel Jobert
-Paris Peace Talks
-North Vietnam
-NATO meeting
-Timing
-Possible Atlantic Charter document
-Significance
-President’s possible trip to Europe
-US goals
-Defense, trade, political coordination
-Need for open communication
-Focus
-Possible Atlantic Charter
-Press reaction
-Compared with SALT
-Significance to Atlantic relations
-Kissinger’s previous speech
-Origin of phrase
-William P. Rogers [?]
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 10:15 am.
Refreshment
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 12:03 pm.
US-Europe relations
-Possible achievements
-Reorientation of defense
-CSCE, MBFR
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Possible effects
-Demonstration of governance
-Contrasted with Watergate
Watergate
-Haldeman and Ehrlichman
-Removal by the President
-Public reaction
-Compared with John F. Kennedy and Bay of Pigs
-Wiretaps
-National security
-Kissinger’s role
-Haldeman’s role
-President’s role
-Ehrlichman’s role
-Effect on Daniel Ellsberg case
-Morton H. Halperin
-Kissinger’s knowledge
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] wiretaps
-Ehrlichman
-David R. Young, Jr. and Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
-FBI
-Kissinger’s position
-Legality of wiretaps
-J. Edgar Hoover
-India-Pakistan
-Lie detector tests
-Yeoman Charles E. Radford
-Wiretaps
-Kissinger’s knowledge
-Adm. Robert O. Welander
-Radford
-Leak of documents to Jack N. Anderson
-Lie detector test
-Ehrlichman
-Wiretap
-Krogh
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Kissinger’s knowledge
-Jeb Stuart Magruder
-FBI
-India-Pakistan
-Wiretap of Radford
-United States Secret Service [USSS]
-Desirability of disclosure
-Possible oversight by JCS
Watergate
-Wiretapes
-Krogh
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Halperin
-FBI and Justice Department
-NSC
-Leaks
-PRC, Soviet Union, Prisoners of War [POWs] and Vietnam War
-Possible effect on foreign policy
-FBI
-W. Matthew Byrne, Jr.
-Leaks from FBI to New York Times
-Kissinger’s possible reaction
-President’s reaction
-Compared to Ellsberg case, Pentagon Papers
-Possible effects on the President’s policies
-Importance to world
-President’s possible resignation
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Possible duration
-Ervin Committee
US foreign policy
-Rogers’s forthcoming meeting with President and Kissinger
-Duration
-Agenda
-Kissinger’s briefing on previous visit to Soviet Union
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-SALT, bilateral agreements
-Announcement of forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Timing
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Ismail
-Expectations
-Soviet Union’s assessment of Middle East
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 10:15 am.
Rogers’s arrival
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:05 am.
Secretary of State position
-Kissinger’s suitability
-Desire to run bureaucracy
-Timing
-Watergate
-Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Rogers’s term in office
-Effect of Watergate
-Perception
-Kissinger’s possible appointment
-Effect on White House
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Scowcroft
-NSC’s role
-Role
-Compared with George P. Shultz
-Possible roles for Haig Scowcroft
-President’s schedule
-Compared with John Foster Dulles and Dwight D.
Eisenhower
-Connally’s possible appointment
-Possible departures of Rogers and Kissinger
-Suitability
-Rush’s possible appointment
-Kissinger’s role
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Need for change
-Connally
-President’s assessment
-Departure of Kissinger
-Possible effect on US foreign relations
-Soviet Union and PRC
-Compared with present situation
-Duration
-Kissinger
-National Security Czar
-Compared with Shultz
-Need for Deputy Secretary
-Rush
-Suitability
-Role with bureaucracy
-Role in national security
-Effect on SALT
-Timing
-Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Rogers’s forthcoming NATO summit
-President’s control of US foreign policy
-Possible Atlantic Charter
William P. Rogers and an unknown man entered at 11:05 am.
Press photograph opportunity
-Location
-Weather
Kissinger’s schedule
The unknown man left and members of the press entered at 11:05 am.
Kissinger’s schedule
-Brezhnev
Rogers’s trip to Latin America
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Indictment
Kissinger’s visit to Zavidovo
-Brezhnev’s dacha
-Swimming pool, gymnasium
Weather
-Photographs
Rogers’s trip to Mexico
The press left at an unknown tiem before 12:03 pm.
Rogers’s trip to Latin America
Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Announcements
-Timing
-Kissinger’s comments at Moscow airport
-Arrangements
-Brezhnev’s visit to US
-President’s schedule
-Camp David
-Activities
-Sequoia
-Key Biscayne
-San Clemente
-Houston, Detroit
-Brezhnev’s automobiles
-Masarati, Cadillac, Rolls Royce
-Request for Lincoln Mark II
Kissinger’s visit to Soviet Union
-Brezhnev
-Driving habits
-Motorboat, hovercraft [?]
-Living conditions in villages
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Contrasted with leaders of Soviet Union
-Contrasted with US leaders
-Brezhnev’s dacha [retreat]
-Hunting
-Value
-Compared to Swiss chalet
-Swimming pool
US foreign relations
-Soviet summit
-NATO
-CSCE
Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Soviet view
-Watergate
-Benefit to Brezhnev
-Attendance
-Gromyko
-Provisions for signing agreements
-Gromyko, Dorbynin, [First name unknown] Konenko [?]
-Communiqué
-Motives
SALT
-Soviet Union
-JCS
-MIRVs
-Equal aggregates
-Soviet Union compared to US
-Limitations
-Soviet Union position
-State Department position
-JCS opposition
-Trident missiles
-MIRV freeze
-JCS
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-White House strategy to gain support
-General principles
-Negotiations
-Necessity of MIRV offer
-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev
-Soviet Union missiles
-MIRV missiles compared with numbers of missiles
-Contrasted with numbers only conditions
-Possible outcome
-US position
-Soviet Union action
-US arms compared with Soviet arms
-JCS
-President’s possible communication
-President’s assessment
Cambodia
-Vote in Congess, May 10
-Appropriations
-Transfer authority
-State Department knowledge
-Defense Department actions
-Amount of funding
-Kissinger’s opinion
-Rogers’s assessment
-Effects of vote
-President’s assessment
-Paris Peace Talks
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Le Duc Tho
-Rogers’s testimony to Senate Appropriations Committee
-John L. McClellan
-Executive session
-Compared to Foreign Relations Committee
-Favorable vote
-North Vietnam
-Effect of vote
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Rogers’s conversation with William H. Sullivan
-Kissinger’s forthcoming conversation with Tho
President’s message to Sullivan
-President’s cable to Kissinger
-Message to Brezhnev
-Vietnam
-Forthcoming Soviet summit
Kissinger’s talks with Brezhnev
-Cable from Scowcroft
-Handwritten note
-Disclosure to Brezhnev
-Brezhnev’s response
-Brezhnev’s remarks
-North Vietnam
-Obstinance
-Pressure
-Signatures
-Agreement
-Conciliation
-PRC presence
-US and Soviet Union role
PRC
-Future
-Need for support
-Future power
-Industry, resources, population
-Compared to Japan
Middle East
-Kissinger’s talks with Brezhnev
-Soviet Union initiative
-War
-Timing
-Rogers’s talks with Abba Eban
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Military position [Lebanon]
-Soviet Union intervention
-Seriousness
-Kissinger’s talks with Brezhnev
-Soviet Union position
-Gromyko
-“Roadside” talks [?]
-Interim agreement
-Overall agreement
-Arab position
-Contradiction
-Support for Egypt
-Cairo
-Consistency
-1968 scheme
-Platform 69
-Palestinian-Israel border settlement
-Possibility of war
-Rogers’s assessment
-Anwar el-Sadat
-Thrusts
-Conversations with President, Israel
-Crisis
-Public relations
-Beating
-Soviet Union’s assessment
-Arab defeat
-Rogers’s meeting with Mohammed H. El Zayyat
-New York
-Egypt military
-Compared to Israel
-Israel’s assessment
-Monitoring
-Military
-Diplomats
-United Nations [UN]
-Forthcoming Security Council meeting, May 1973
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Israel, Great Britain
-UN resolution 242
-Possible negotiations
-Israel’s willingness
-Egypt’s willingness
-Hafez Ismail
-Kissinger’s possible meeting with Hafez Ismail
-Paris
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Need for secrecy
-Leaks
-Telegram
-Rogers
-Propositions
-Rogers [?]
-Stalling
-Sisco
-Rogers’s request for brief
-State Department’s role
-Kissinger’s possible statement
-Egypt, Soviet Union
-Secrecy
-Communication
-Ismail’s possible comments
-Back channel
-State Department activities
-Coordination of efforts
-Israel, Great Britain
-Ismail
-Statements to President, Kissinger
-Compared to Rogers
-Request for meeting with Kissinger
-Egypt
-Diplomatic strategy with US
-US relations
-Sisco
-Alfred L. (“Roy”) Atherton
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Kissinger’s possible meeting with Ismail
-Consultation
-Need for representation from State Department
-Atherton
-Privacy
-Leak
Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-US bargaining position
-President’s unpredictability
-Possible military strike
-Unpreparedness
-Discretion
-Congressional vote
-US public opinion
-Third option
-Cost
-Immediacy
-Safety
-Opposition
-Agreement on Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam
-Articles 7, 20, 15, 8
-Implementation
-Economic aid
-Congress
-Cambodia
-Article 20
-Withdrawal
-Possible unilateral cease-fire
-Timing of announcement
-Fighting
-Bombing
-Effects
-Difficulty
-Timing of announcement
Cambodia
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-US military action
-Bombing raids
-B-52s
-Goals
-Psychological effect
-Reluctance to engage militarily
-US bombing
-Collapse
-US support
-Public relations
-US Congress
-Appropriations
-Rider
-John Sherman Cooper-Church Amendment
-Prohibitions on ground troops, advisors
-Possible prohibitions on bombing
-Possible Presidential veto
-Override
-Reduction in US military capability, bargaining position
-Effect on Vietnam settlement
-Vietnam settlement
-Incentives to maintain agreement
-Possible cease-fire
-Economic aid talks
-Possible unilateral cease-fire
-Possible effect
-Possible North Vietnam action
-US Congress vote
-US military action
-Possible continuation of bombings
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Possible unilateral cease-fire
-US Congress vote, May 10
-Omission
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB], Defense Department
controller
-Kissinger’s opinion
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-McClellan’s telephone call to Rogers
-Rogers’s testimony to Senate Appropriations Committee
-Rogers’s knowledge
-OMB
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Tenure in office
-Defense Department controller
-Timing of funding request
-Richardson
-Alternative sources of funds for bombing
-Transfer
-Amount
-Richardson
-Congress
-Rogers’s testimony
-Effect on negotiations
-Kissinger’s meeting with Tho
-Economic aid
Latin America
-US Foreign policy
-Significance
-Rogers’s forthcoming trip
-Message from President
-Domestic issues
-Kissinger’s previous trip to Soviet Union
-Focus on forthcoming Soviet summit, “Year of Europe”
-President’s statements in 1958
-Significance of Latin America
-Revolution, coup
-Importance of Latin America
-US priorities
-Compared with Soviet Union, PRC, Europe, Japan
-Hemispheric interests
-Latin America initiatives
-Compared to US policies
-Alliance for progress
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Paternalism
-Leaders’s meeting
-President’s schedule
-State visits
-Compared to Europe
-Luis Echeverria Alvarez
-Ultimatum
-Compared to individual meetings
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Meeting with Hector J. Campara
-Mexico
-Water salinity problem
-President’s approval
-Peru
-Military sales
-Compared with Soviet Union
-Military sales
-President’s views
-Military establishment
-US interest
-US personnel
-Contacts
-Compared to Indonesia
Presidential determination
-Correspondence with Kissinger
Latin America
-Fishing rights
-Japan
-Rogers’s forthcoming trip
-Argentina
-Compared with Europe
-Rogers’s experience in South America, Mexico
-Cities of Latin America
-President’s opinion
-Buenos Aires
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Embassy
Personnel appointments
-Cambodia
-US ambassadorship
-Rogers’s assessment
-Confirmation
-Deputy Chief of Mission
-Recommendation
-William R. Kintner
-Likelihood of confirmation
-Timing
-Bombing
-Compared to Graham Martin
-Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
-Deputy Chief of Mission
-Gen. Richard G. Stilwell
-Deputy Chief of Mission
-Thomas O. Enders
-Confirmation
-Kintner
-Henry A. Byroade
-Rogers’s opinion
-Resignation
-Replacement
-Statements regarding foreign service
-Thomas G. Corcoran
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
-Advisability of reposting
-Alternatives
-Relationship with Corcoran
-Democrats
-Kissinger’s knowledge
-[First name unknown] Kendall [?]
-Age
-Kintner
-President’s assessment
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Thailand
-US ambassadorship
-Cambodia
-Deputy Chief of Mission
-Thomas O. Enders
-Emory C. Swank
-Kissinger’s assessment
-Compared to G. McMurtrie Godley
-Godley
-Thailand
-US ambassadorship
-Kintner
-Cambodia
-Need for change
-Swank
-President’s opinion
-Swank
-Possible posts
-Chad, Uruguay
-Contrasted with Cambodia
-President’s assessment
-San Clemente
-Thailand
-Kintner
-Cambodia
-US ambassadorship
-Timing of decision
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Options
-Need for military background
-Compared with Kintner
-Possible confirmation process
-US Congress
-Kintner
-Thailand, Korea
-Response
-Henry Kearns [?]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Carol Clendening (“Carol”) Laise
-State Department Public Affairs Officer
-Relationship with Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Kissinger’s assessment
-Possible role
-Robert Anderson
-Bunker
-Possible position
-Laise
Rogers’s conversation with Warren E. Burger
-Possible position
-Burger’s health
Election Reform Commission
-Membership
-John W. Gardner
-Law school deans
-William Scranton
-Kissinger’s assessment
-University presidents
-Dale Korsten, President of Cornell University
-Charles H. Percy
-Motives
-James Q. Wilson from Harvard University
-Need for balance
-Democrats, Republicans
-Southern
-Dean Rusk
-Terry Sanford
-Contrasted with Dean G. Acheson and Thomas E. Dewey
-McGeorge Bundy
-Motives
-Korsten
-Rogers’s assessment
-Governors
-Jimmy Carter
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Challenges
-Honesty
Spiro T. Agnew
-Grand Jury investigation
-Tenure as governor of Maryland
-Campaign contributions and contract awards
Campaign finance reform
-Limitations on contributions
-Amounts
-Methods
Rogers’s forthcoming trip to Latin America
-Timing
Watergate
-Ervin Committee hearings
-Possible effect on trials
-Indictments of John N. Mitchell and Maurice H. Stans
-Compared with Profumo case in Great Britain
-Effect on government politicians
-Rogers’s conversation with George R. S. Baring [Earl of Cromer]
-Press relations
Kissinger and Rogers left at 12:03 pm.
Date: May 11, 1973
Time: 10:15 am - 12:03 pm
Location: Oval Office
Unknown man met with Henry A. Kissinger.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
President’s location
Statement [?]
The President entered and Haig left at an unknown time after 10:15 am.
Kissinger’s schedule
-Airplane flight
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Kissinger’s foreign travel
-Jet lag
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 10:15 am.
Refreshments
-Coffee
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:05 am.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
US-Soviet relations
-Kissinger’s memorandum [memo]
-President’s reaction
-William P. Rogers [?]
-Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Press announcement
-Timing
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Kissinger’s possible press briefing regarding trip to Soviet Union
-Possible impact on negotiations
-Kissinger’s statement at Moscow airport
-Strategy
-Timing of press announcement
Vietnam
-Paris Peace talks
-Kissinger’s trip
-Press announcement
-Le Duc Tho
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Leverage
-Bombing
-Cambodia
-President’s actions
-Congressional support
-December bombings
-Funds
-Bombing
-Need for funds
Cambodia
-Congressional vote on funds
-Bureaucratic mistake
-William E. Timmons
-Defense Department, State Department
-Robert Moot’s replacement as Comptroller
-Elliot L. Richardson
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
Defense Department
-Dr. James R. Schlesinger
-Compared with Richardson
-William P. Clements, Jr.
Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Joint Chiefs of Staff, Clements
-Soviet Union’s position
-JCS position
-Multiple Independently-Targetable Reentry Vehicle [MIRV]
-Possible effect
-Advantages to US
-President’s forthcoming memo
-Phraseology
-Congress, press
Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Forthcoming briefing of William P. Rogers
Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Forthcoming briefing of [David] Kenneth Rush
-Rogers
-Need for bureaucratic support
-Impact of Watergate scandal
-Great Britain’s assessment
-Protection of People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-European concerns
-Need for support from US ambassadors
-Possible effect on nuclear deterrence
-Great Britain’s enthusiasm
Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union and London
-Brezhnev’s dacha [retreat]
-Location
-Compared with Camp David
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Lifestyle of Communist leaders
Kissinger’s previous visit to London
-Messages from Edward R. G. Heath and [Maurice] Harold MacMillan to President
-Heath’s unofficial regards
-MacMillan’s letter to Walter H. Annenberg
Watergate
-Public interest
-Cabinet meeting
-Kissinger, President, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, and
Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Indictment of John N. Mitchell and Maurice H. Stans in Robert L. Vesco case
-Results of Vesco case
-Indictments
An unknown person entered the room at an unknown time after 10:15 am. [?]
Refreshments [?]
The unknown person left the room at an unknown time before 11:05 am. [?]
Messages from Heath and MacMillan
-President’s reaction
Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union
-Brezhnev’s schedule
-Activities
-Military motor boat
-Hunting
-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev
-Brezhnev’s opinion of President
-Invitation to President to visit Soviet Union
-Reception
President’s possible foreign travel
-Soviet Union
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Impact on focus on Watergate scandal
-Europe
-PRC
-Europe
-US relations
North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] meetings
-Timing
-Effect of possible European summit
-Great Britain
Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Possible European summit
-Resulting document
-Challenges
-Need for support
-Great Britain
-Kissinger’s meeting in London, May 10
-France
-Federal Republic of Germany
-Contrasted with Walter Scheel’s meeting with Rogers
Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union
-Positive reception
-Cable to President
-Banquet
Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Planning
-Activities
-Sequoia
-Camp David
-San Clemente
-Brezhnev’s expectations
-Lincoln
Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Brezhnev’s comments on mothers
-Brezhnev’s mother
-Hannah Milhous Nixon
-Brezhnev’s remarks at banquet
-Veracity
-Commitment
US-Soviet relations
-President’s legacy
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Potential for success
-Kissinger’s forthcoming briefings
-Rush
-State Department
-William J. Porter
-SALT negotiations
-Worries
-State Department [?]
-MIRVs
-Principles
-Kissinger’s role
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Significance
-Public relations
-Principles
-JCS
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft [?]
-Other agreements
-Nuclear exchanges, peaceful uses
-Cultural exchanges
-Transportation
-Environment
-Civil aviation
-Maritime
-Signings at forthcoming Soviet summit
-Communiqué
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Kissinger’s forthcoming briefing of Rogers
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-SALT
-Principles
-JCS
-Vietnam
-Brezhnev
-Military equipment
-President’s cables
-Scowcroft
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Impediment to negotiations
-Kissinger’s message to President
-Key Biscayne
-Instructions from President
-Scowcroft
-Brezhnev
-Reaction
-Acceptance of US terms
-Compared to Great Britain
-PRC
-Soviet Union attack
-Kissinger’s impressions
-Hunting
-Brezhnev’s private conversation with Kissinger
-Translation [Viktor M. Sukhodrev]
-Need for US-Soviet cooperation
-Prevention of PRC nuclear program
-Kissinger’s talks with PRC
-Global balance of power
-Brezhnev’s comments
-US politics
-1976 elections
-Need for Republican
Watergate
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin’s comments
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Indictments
-Stans and Mitchell
-Vesco
-Kissnger’s conversation with Dobrynin
-Amateur nature of break-in
-Dislike of Democrats
US-Soviet relations
-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev
-Brezhnev’s comments on Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Jackson-Vanick Amendment
-Jewish emigration
-Exit visas
-List of names
-President’s conversation with Senate Commerce Committee
-Modifications to legislation
-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev
-Possible effect on Jewish emigration
-Status of Jews in Soviet Union
-Ability to gain exit visas
-Possible in anti-Semitism
-Mutual and Balanced Force Reduction [MBFR]
-Timing
-Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe [CSCE]
-Middle East
-Potential for war
-Soviet principles
-Kissinger’s conversation with Sir Alexander F. (“Alec”) Douglas-Home
-Pro-Egypt stance
-Kissinger’s cable
-Kissinger’s conversation with Andrei A. Gromyko
-Brezhnev
-Strategy for negotiations
-1972 summit
-Principles
Middle East
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-US relations with Israel
-Arab position
-Possibility for interim agreement
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Hafez Ismail
-Paris Peace Talks with Le Duc Tho
-Rogers’s possible reaction
-Foreign service officer in Cairo [Joseph N. Greene, Jr. ?]
-Cables
-Kissinger’s forthcoming briefings
-Rogers and Joseph J. Sisco
-Foreign service officer in Cairo [Greene ?]
-Need for recall
Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Middle East, Vietnam
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-SALT
-Communiqué
-Bilateral treaties
-Rogers and Gromyko
-East Room
-Preparations
-Activities for Brezhnev
-Disneyland
-Hollywood
-Dinner
-Compared with John Ford
Southeast Asia
-Kissinger’s conversations with Brezhnev
-Vietnam
-Attacks by North Vietnam
-Impact of Watergate
-Possible US action
-Congress
-Effects on US-Soviet relations
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
US-European relations
-Willy Brandt
-Great Britain
-Possible Atlantic Charter
-Deputy foreign ministers
-Great Britain, France, Germany, US
-Sir Burke Trend
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Michel Jobert
-Paris Peace Talks
-North Vietnam
-NATO meeting
-Timing
-Possible Atlantic Charter document
-Significance
-President’s possible trip to Europe
-US goals
-Defense, trade, political coordination
-Need for open communication
-Focus
-Possible Atlantic Charter
-Press reaction
-Compared with SALT
-Significance to Atlantic relations
-Kissinger’s previous speech
-Origin of phrase
-William P. Rogers [?]
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 10:15 am.
Refreshment
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 12:03 pm.
US-Europe relations
-Possible achievements
-Reorientation of defense
-CSCE, MBFR
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Possible effects
-Demonstration of governance
-Contrasted with Watergate
Watergate
-Haldeman and Ehrlichman
-Removal by the President
-Public reaction
-Compared with John F. Kennedy and Bay of Pigs
-Wiretaps
-National security
-Kissinger’s role
-Haldeman’s role
-President’s role
-Ehrlichman’s role
-Effect on Daniel Ellsberg case
-Morton H. Halperin
-Kissinger’s knowledge
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] wiretaps
-Ehrlichman
-David R. Young, Jr. and Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
-FBI
-Kissinger’s position
-Legality of wiretaps
-J. Edgar Hoover
-India-Pakistan
-Lie detector tests
-Yeoman Charles E. Radford
-Wiretaps
-Kissinger’s knowledge
-Adm. Robert O. Welander
-Radford
-Leak of documents to Jack N. Anderson
-Lie detector test
-Ehrlichman
-Wiretap
-Krogh
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Kissinger’s knowledge
-Jeb Stuart Magruder
-FBI
-India-Pakistan
-Wiretap of Radford
-United States Secret Service [USSS]
-Desirability of disclosure
-Possible oversight by JCS
Watergate
-Wiretapes
-Krogh
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Halperin
-FBI and Justice Department
-NSC
-Leaks
-PRC, Soviet Union, Prisoners of War [POWs] and Vietnam War
-Possible effect on foreign policy
-FBI
-W. Matthew Byrne, Jr.
-Leaks from FBI to New York Times
-Kissinger’s possible reaction
-President’s reaction
-Compared to Ellsberg case, Pentagon Papers
-Possible effects on the President’s policies
-Importance to world
-President’s possible resignation
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Possible duration
-Ervin Committee
US foreign policy
-Rogers’s forthcoming meeting with President and Kissinger
-Duration
-Agenda
-Kissinger’s briefing on previous visit to Soviet Union
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-SALT, bilateral agreements
-Announcement of forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Timing
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Ismail
-Expectations
-Soviet Union’s assessment of Middle East
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 10:15 am.
Rogers’s arrival
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:05 am.
Secretary of State position
-Kissinger’s suitability
-Desire to run bureaucracy
-Timing
-Watergate
-Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Rogers’s term in office
-Effect of Watergate
-Perception
-Kissinger’s possible appointment
-Effect on White House
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Scowcroft
-NSC’s role
-Role
-Compared with George P. Shultz
-Possible roles for Haig Scowcroft
-President’s schedule
-Compared with John Foster Dulles and Dwight D.
Eisenhower
-Connally’s possible appointment
-Possible departures of Rogers and Kissinger
-Suitability
-Rush’s possible appointment
-Kissinger’s role
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Need for change
-Connally
-President’s assessment
-Departure of Kissinger
-Possible effect on US foreign relations
-Soviet Union and PRC
-Compared with present situation
-Duration
-Kissinger
-National Security Czar
-Compared with Shultz
-Need for Deputy Secretary
-Rush
-Suitability
-Role with bureaucracy
-Role in national security
-Effect on SALT
-Timing
-Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Rogers’s forthcoming NATO summit
-President’s control of US foreign policy
-Possible Atlantic Charter
William P. Rogers and an unknown man entered at 11:05 am.
Press photograph opportunity
-Location
-Weather
Kissinger’s schedule
The unknown man left and members of the press entered at 11:05 am.
Kissinger’s schedule
-Brezhnev
Rogers’s trip to Latin America
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Indictment
Kissinger’s visit to Zavidovo
-Brezhnev’s dacha
-Swimming pool, gymnasium
Weather
-Photographs
Rogers’s trip to Mexico
The press left at an unknown tiem before 12:03 pm.
Rogers’s trip to Latin America
Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Announcements
-Timing
-Kissinger’s comments at Moscow airport
-Arrangements
-Brezhnev’s visit to US
-President’s schedule
-Camp David
-Activities
-Sequoia
-Key Biscayne
-San Clemente
-Houston, Detroit
-Brezhnev’s automobiles
-Masarati, Cadillac, Rolls Royce
-Request for Lincoln Mark II
Kissinger’s visit to Soviet Union
-Brezhnev
-Driving habits
-Motorboat, hovercraft [?]
-Living conditions in villages
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Contrasted with leaders of Soviet Union
-Contrasted with US leaders
-Brezhnev’s dacha [retreat]
-Hunting
-Value
-Compared to Swiss chalet
-Swimming pool
US foreign relations
-Soviet summit
-NATO
-CSCE
Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Soviet view
-Watergate
-Benefit to Brezhnev
-Attendance
-Gromyko
-Provisions for signing agreements
-Gromyko, Dorbynin, [First name unknown] Konenko [?]
-Communiqué
-Motives
SALT
-Soviet Union
-JCS
-MIRVs
-Equal aggregates
-Soviet Union compared to US
-Limitations
-Soviet Union position
-State Department position
-JCS opposition
-Trident missiles
-MIRV freeze
-JCS
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-White House strategy to gain support
-General principles
-Negotiations
-Necessity of MIRV offer
-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev
-Soviet Union missiles
-MIRV missiles compared with numbers of missiles
-Contrasted with numbers only conditions
-Possible outcome
-US position
-Soviet Union action
-US arms compared with Soviet arms
-JCS
-President’s possible communication
-President’s assessment
Cambodia
-Vote in Congess, May 10
-Appropriations
-Transfer authority
-State Department knowledge
-Defense Department actions
-Amount of funding
-Kissinger’s opinion
-Rogers’s assessment
-Effects of vote
-President’s assessment
-Paris Peace Talks
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Le Duc Tho
-Rogers’s testimony to Senate Appropriations Committee
-John L. McClellan
-Executive session
-Compared to Foreign Relations Committee
-Favorable vote
-North Vietnam
-Effect of vote
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Rogers’s conversation with William H. Sullivan
-Kissinger’s forthcoming conversation with Tho
President’s message to Sullivan
-President’s cable to Kissinger
-Message to Brezhnev
-Vietnam
-Forthcoming Soviet summit
Kissinger’s talks with Brezhnev
-Cable from Scowcroft
-Handwritten note
-Disclosure to Brezhnev
-Brezhnev’s response
-Brezhnev’s remarks
-North Vietnam
-Obstinance
-Pressure
-Signatures
-Agreement
-Conciliation
-PRC presence
-US and Soviet Union role
PRC
-Future
-Need for support
-Future power
-Industry, resources, population
-Compared to Japan
Middle East
-Kissinger’s talks with Brezhnev
-Soviet Union initiative
-War
-Timing
-Rogers’s talks with Abba Eban
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Military position [Lebanon]
-Soviet Union intervention
-Seriousness
-Kissinger’s talks with Brezhnev
-Soviet Union position
-Gromyko
-“Roadside” talks [?]
-Interim agreement
-Overall agreement
-Arab position
-Contradiction
-Support for Egypt
-Cairo
-Consistency
-1968 scheme
-Platform 69
-Palestinian-Israel border settlement
-Possibility of war
-Rogers’s assessment
-Anwar el-Sadat
-Thrusts
-Conversations with President, Israel
-Crisis
-Public relations
-Beating
-Soviet Union’s assessment
-Arab defeat
-Rogers’s meeting with Mohammed H. El Zayyat
-New York
-Egypt military
-Compared to Israel
-Israel’s assessment
-Monitoring
-Military
-Diplomats
-United Nations [UN]
-Forthcoming Security Council meeting, May 1973
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Israel, Great Britain
-UN resolution 242
-Possible negotiations
-Israel’s willingness
-Egypt’s willingness
-Hafez Ismail
-Kissinger’s possible meeting with Hafez Ismail
-Paris
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Need for secrecy
-Leaks
-Telegram
-Rogers
-Propositions
-Rogers [?]
-Stalling
-Sisco
-Rogers’s request for brief
-State Department’s role
-Kissinger’s possible statement
-Egypt, Soviet Union
-Secrecy
-Communication
-Ismail’s possible comments
-Back channel
-State Department activities
-Coordination of efforts
-Israel, Great Britain
-Ismail
-Statements to President, Kissinger
-Compared to Rogers
-Request for meeting with Kissinger
-Egypt
-Diplomatic strategy with US
-US relations
-Sisco
-Alfred L. (“Roy”) Atherton
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Kissinger’s possible meeting with Ismail
-Consultation
-Need for representation from State Department
-Atherton
-Privacy
-Leak
Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-US bargaining position
-President’s unpredictability
-Possible military strike
-Unpreparedness
-Discretion
-Congressional vote
-US public opinion
-Third option
-Cost
-Immediacy
-Safety
-Opposition
-Agreement on Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam
-Articles 7, 20, 15, 8
-Implementation
-Economic aid
-Congress
-Cambodia
-Article 20
-Withdrawal
-Possible unilateral cease-fire
-Timing of announcement
-Fighting
-Bombing
-Effects
-Difficulty
-Timing of announcement
Cambodia
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-US military action
-Bombing raids
-B-52s
-Goals
-Psychological effect
-Reluctance to engage militarily
-US bombing
-Collapse
-US support
-Public relations
-US Congress
-Appropriations
-Rider
-John Sherman Cooper-Church Amendment
-Prohibitions on ground troops, advisors
-Possible prohibitions on bombing
-Possible Presidential veto
-Override
-Reduction in US military capability, bargaining position
-Effect on Vietnam settlement
-Vietnam settlement
-Incentives to maintain agreement
-Possible cease-fire
-Economic aid talks
-Possible unilateral cease-fire
-Possible effect
-Possible North Vietnam action
-US Congress vote
-US military action
-Possible continuation of bombings
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Possible unilateral cease-fire
-US Congress vote, May 10
-Omission
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB], Defense Department
controller
-Kissinger’s opinion
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-McClellan’s telephone call to Rogers
-Rogers’s testimony to Senate Appropriations Committee
-Rogers’s knowledge
-OMB
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Tenure in office
-Defense Department controller
-Timing of funding request
-Richardson
-Alternative sources of funds for bombing
-Transfer
-Amount
-Richardson
-Congress
-Rogers’s testimony
-Effect on negotiations
-Kissinger’s meeting with Tho
-Economic aid
Latin America
-US Foreign policy
-Significance
-Rogers’s forthcoming trip
-Message from President
-Domestic issues
-Kissinger’s previous trip to Soviet Union
-Focus on forthcoming Soviet summit, “Year of Europe”
-President’s statements in 1958
-Significance of Latin America
-Revolution, coup
-Importance of Latin America
-US priorities
-Compared with Soviet Union, PRC, Europe, Japan
-Hemispheric interests
-Latin America initiatives
-Compared to US policies
-Alliance for progress
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Paternalism
-Leaders’s meeting
-President’s schedule
-State visits
-Compared to Europe
-Luis Echeverria Alvarez
-Ultimatum
-Compared to individual meetings
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Meeting with Hector J. Campara
-Mexico
-Water salinity problem
-President’s approval
-Peru
-Military sales
-Compared with Soviet Union
-Military sales
-President’s views
-Military establishment
-US interest
-US personnel
-Contacts
-Compared to Indonesia
Presidential determination
-Correspondence with Kissinger
Latin America
-Fishing rights
-Japan
-Rogers’s forthcoming trip
-Argentina
-Compared with Europe
-Rogers’s experience in South America, Mexico
-Cities of Latin America
-President’s opinion
-Buenos Aires
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Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Embassy
Personnel appointments
-Cambodia
-US ambassadorship
-Rogers’s assessment
-Confirmation
-Deputy Chief of Mission
-Recommendation
-William R. Kintner
-Likelihood of confirmation
-Timing
-Bombing
-Compared to Graham Martin
-Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
-Deputy Chief of Mission
-Gen. Richard G. Stilwell
-Deputy Chief of Mission
-Thomas O. Enders
-Confirmation
-Kintner
-Henry A. Byroade
-Rogers’s opinion
-Resignation
-Replacement
-Statements regarding foreign service
-Thomas G. Corcoran
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
-Advisability of reposting
-Alternatives
-Relationship with Corcoran
-Democrats
-Kissinger’s knowledge
-[First name unknown] Kendall [?]
-Age
-Kintner
-President’s assessment
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Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Thailand
-US ambassadorship
-Cambodia
-Deputy Chief of Mission
-Thomas O. Enders
-Emory C. Swank
-Kissinger’s assessment
-Compared to G. McMurtrie Godley
-Godley
-Thailand
-US ambassadorship
-Kintner
-Cambodia
-Need for change
-Swank
-President’s opinion
-Swank
-Possible posts
-Chad, Uruguay
-Contrasted with Cambodia
-President’s assessment
-San Clemente
-Thailand
-Kintner
-Cambodia
-US ambassadorship
-Timing of decision
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Options
-Need for military background
-Compared with Kintner
-Possible confirmation process
-US Congress
-Kintner
-Thailand, Korea
-Response
-Henry Kearns [?]
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Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Carol Clendening (“Carol”) Laise
-State Department Public Affairs Officer
-Relationship with Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Kissinger’s assessment
-Possible role
-Robert Anderson
-Bunker
-Possible position
-Laise
Rogers’s conversation with Warren E. Burger
-Possible position
-Burger’s health
Election Reform Commission
-Membership
-John W. Gardner
-Law school deans
-William Scranton
-Kissinger’s assessment
-University presidents
-Dale Korsten, President of Cornell University
-Charles H. Percy
-Motives
-James Q. Wilson from Harvard University
-Need for balance
-Democrats, Republicans
-Southern
-Dean Rusk
-Terry Sanford
-Contrasted with Dean G. Acheson and Thomas E. Dewey
-McGeorge Bundy
-Motives
-Korsten
-Rogers’s assessment
-Governors
-Jimmy Carter
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)
Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)
-Challenges
-Honesty
Spiro T. Agnew
-Grand Jury investigation
-Tenure as governor of Maryland
-Campaign contributions and contract awards
Campaign finance reform
-Limitations on contributions
-Amounts
-Methods
Rogers’s forthcoming trip to Latin America
-Timing
Watergate
-Ervin Committee hearings
-Possible effect on trials
-Indictments of John N. Mitchell and Maurice H. Stans
-Compared with Profumo case in Great Britain
-Effect on government politicians
-Rogers’s conversation with George R. S. Baring [Earl of Cromer]
-Press relations
Kissinger and Rogers left at 12:03 pm.