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941–2
- President Richard M. Nixon
- George P. Shultz
- Stephen B. Bull
June 14, 1973
Conversation No. 941-2
Date: June 14, 1973
Time: 2:06 pm - 2:55 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with George P. Shultz.
National economy
-President’s speech, June 13, 1973
-Response
-Rhetoric
-Performance
-Free market
-Goals
-Need for Congressional action
-Spending, farm bills, surplus, commodities authority
-Labor
-Responsibility, responsiveness
-Fitzsimmons’s telephone call to President
-Negotiations
-President’s program
-2-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Implementation
-Regulations
-Effectiveness
-Sensibility
-Compared to Phase II
-Food and gas prices
-Possibility of turnaround after 60-day price freeze
Personnel appointments and management
-Shultz
-Tenure in office
-Fondness for President
-Approval
-Support
-Watergate
-Shultz’s fury
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman
-President’s confidence
-Relationships
-Ehrlichman, Haldeman
-Roy L. Ash
-Melvin R. Laird
-Style
-Friends’ potential appointment to White House
-Request for Shultz’s opinion of White House
-Walter B. Wriston
-Steve Benkel [?]
-Peter G. Peterson
-Edward W. Carter
-Assistant to President
-Clean energy position
-Benkel [?]
-White House staff
-William W. Scranton
-National economy
-Shultz’s view
-Price controls
-3-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Possible Congressional action
-President’s plan
-Shultz’s role
-Shultz’s role
-Credibility as manager or price controls program
-Advocate
-Witness in Congress
-Shultz
-Departure
-President’s objectives
-Objection to price controls
-Appreciation for post
-Relationship with President
-Departure
-Consultant role
-Impact on price controls program
-Paul W. McCracken [?]
-Departure
-Shared reasons with President
-White House staff relations
-Laird
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Ash
-Departures of Haldeman and Ehrlichman
-Laird
-Bryce N. Harlow
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Laird
-Shultz
-Price controls
-Interviews
-Trade, taxes
-Treasury Department
-Price controls
-William E. Simon’s opposition
-Credibility of congressional testimony
-Departure
-4-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Attribution to Watergate
-Difficulty
-Trade role
-Peter M. Flanigan [?]
-Peterson
-Role
-Trade and tax legislation
-Price controls legislative program
-Labor leaders
-Peter J. Brennan
-Laird
-Congressional deal making
-Vetoes
-Farm, veteran legislation
-Trade legislation
-Labor leaders
-Brennan
-President’s relationship
-George Meany [?]
-Simon
-John T. Dunlop
-Energy czar
-Treasury Department role
-Rogers C. B. Morton role
-State Department role
-Defense Department role
-Possible Congressional action
-Shultz
-World travel
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:06 pm.
Telephone call from Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
Bull left at an unknown time before 2:55 pm.
Personnel appointments and management
-5-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Shultz
-Trade, tax, economic philosophy
-President’s recent price control decision
-Congressional testimony
-Dunlop
-“Year of Europe”
-Trade
-Arthur F. Burns
-Soviet Union
-Trade
-Taxes
-General management of Treasury Department
-Energy advisor
-Wages and prices
-Advice and advocacy
-Dunlop
-Interaction with Labor
-Leonard Garment [?]
-Brennan
-Labor
-Laird’s relationship with Meany
-Shultz’s press conference in Paris
-Laird’s statements
-Wage-price program
-Monetary policy
-Laird
-Conversation with Haig concerning statements
-Power
-Statements
-Monetary policy
-White House staffing
-Haig’s role
-Henry A. Kissinger’s role
-Laird’s role
-Domestic Council
-Harlow’s role
-Shultz
-6-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Ash
-Views on vetoes
-President’s conversation with Haig
-Rigidity
-Harlow
-Ally for Shultz
-View on policy
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB]’s role
-Role of departments
-Domestic Council
-Cabinet
-Shultz
-Skills, importance
-Frederick B. Dent
-Brennan
-Claude S. Brinegar
-Shultz
-Scope, understanding, breadth
-White House staffing
-President’s conversation with Haig
-Harlow
-Scranton
-Credibility with governors, political leaders, press
-Governorship
-Mary Scranton
-Mother
-Energy position
-Coal, oil knowledge
-Middle East trips
-Simon, Morton, State Department representative, Charles J.
DiBona
Energy
-Treasury Department role
-Morton
-White House role
-Economics
-7-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Politics
-Alaskan pipline, taxes, and Middle East
-Morton’s view
-Interior Department
-Elk Hills
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
-Elliot L. Richardson [?]
-Nuclear energy
-Organization
-Energy research group
-Funding
-Ash
-Energy message
-Funding
-President’s speech at Florida Technical Institute
-Distribution
-Massachusetts Institute of Technology [MIT], Stanford University,
University of Chicago, Florida Technical Institute
-Ash
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
Personnel appointments and management
-Importance of Shultz’s retention
-Harlow
-Laird
-Ash
-Shultz
-Relationship with John D. Ehrlichman and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Relationship with President
-Abilities
-National economy
-Herbert Stein
-Burns
-Federal Reserve
-Views on President’s program
-Price freeze
-Wages
-8-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Possible Congressional action on taxes
-President’s schedule
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Follow up meeting
-California
-Departure from Administration
-Haig
-Wage and price controls
-Ideological statement
-Burns
-President’s schedule
-Rest after Brezhnev’s visit
-Shultz meeting in California
-Date
-President’s persuasiveness
-Letter
National economy
-Burns
-Possible statements
-Views
-Gasoline price controls
-Relationship with Shultz
-International monetary issues
-President’s schedule
-Success in influencing policy
-Gold
-Gasoline prices
-Labor
-Labor negotiations
-Inflation
-International Brotherhood of Teamsters
-United Auto Workers [UAW]
-Wage formula
-Postal Service
-Shultz’s forthcoming activities
-9-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
President’s schedule
-Conversation with Haig
Shultz’s schedule
-Tennis, golf
-Meany
President’s schedule
-Diplomatic credentials
-Brezhnev
-Shultz’s attendance at State Dinner
-Earl L. Butz
-Businessmen
Shultz left at an unknown time before 2:55 pm.
Date: June 14, 1973
Time: 2:06 pm - 2:55 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with George P. Shultz.
National economy
-President’s speech, June 13, 1973
-Response
-Rhetoric
-Performance
-Free market
-Goals
-Need for Congressional action
-Spending, farm bills, surplus, commodities authority
-Labor
-Responsibility, responsiveness
-Fitzsimmons’s telephone call to President
-Negotiations
-President’s program
-2-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Implementation
-Regulations
-Effectiveness
-Sensibility
-Compared to Phase II
-Food and gas prices
-Possibility of turnaround after 60-day price freeze
Personnel appointments and management
-Shultz
-Tenure in office
-Fondness for President
-Approval
-Support
-Watergate
-Shultz’s fury
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman
-President’s confidence
-Relationships
-Ehrlichman, Haldeman
-Roy L. Ash
-Melvin R. Laird
-Style
-Friends’ potential appointment to White House
-Request for Shultz’s opinion of White House
-Walter B. Wriston
-Steve Benkel [?]
-Peter G. Peterson
-Edward W. Carter
-Assistant to President
-Clean energy position
-Benkel [?]
-White House staff
-William W. Scranton
-National economy
-Shultz’s view
-Price controls
-3-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Possible Congressional action
-President’s plan
-Shultz’s role
-Shultz’s role
-Credibility as manager or price controls program
-Advocate
-Witness in Congress
-Shultz
-Departure
-President’s objectives
-Objection to price controls
-Appreciation for post
-Relationship with President
-Departure
-Consultant role
-Impact on price controls program
-Paul W. McCracken [?]
-Departure
-Shared reasons with President
-White House staff relations
-Laird
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Ash
-Departures of Haldeman and Ehrlichman
-Laird
-Bryce N. Harlow
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Laird
-Shultz
-Price controls
-Interviews
-Trade, taxes
-Treasury Department
-Price controls
-William E. Simon’s opposition
-Credibility of congressional testimony
-Departure
-4-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Attribution to Watergate
-Difficulty
-Trade role
-Peter M. Flanigan [?]
-Peterson
-Role
-Trade and tax legislation
-Price controls legislative program
-Labor leaders
-Peter J. Brennan
-Laird
-Congressional deal making
-Vetoes
-Farm, veteran legislation
-Trade legislation
-Labor leaders
-Brennan
-President’s relationship
-George Meany [?]
-Simon
-John T. Dunlop
-Energy czar
-Treasury Department role
-Rogers C. B. Morton role
-State Department role
-Defense Department role
-Possible Congressional action
-Shultz
-World travel
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:06 pm.
Telephone call from Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
Bull left at an unknown time before 2:55 pm.
Personnel appointments and management
-5-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Shultz
-Trade, tax, economic philosophy
-President’s recent price control decision
-Congressional testimony
-Dunlop
-“Year of Europe”
-Trade
-Arthur F. Burns
-Soviet Union
-Trade
-Taxes
-General management of Treasury Department
-Energy advisor
-Wages and prices
-Advice and advocacy
-Dunlop
-Interaction with Labor
-Leonard Garment [?]
-Brennan
-Labor
-Laird’s relationship with Meany
-Shultz’s press conference in Paris
-Laird’s statements
-Wage-price program
-Monetary policy
-Laird
-Conversation with Haig concerning statements
-Power
-Statements
-Monetary policy
-White House staffing
-Haig’s role
-Henry A. Kissinger’s role
-Laird’s role
-Domestic Council
-Harlow’s role
-Shultz
-6-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Ash
-Views on vetoes
-President’s conversation with Haig
-Rigidity
-Harlow
-Ally for Shultz
-View on policy
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB]’s role
-Role of departments
-Domestic Council
-Cabinet
-Shultz
-Skills, importance
-Frederick B. Dent
-Brennan
-Claude S. Brinegar
-Shultz
-Scope, understanding, breadth
-White House staffing
-President’s conversation with Haig
-Harlow
-Scranton
-Credibility with governors, political leaders, press
-Governorship
-Mary Scranton
-Mother
-Energy position
-Coal, oil knowledge
-Middle East trips
-Simon, Morton, State Department representative, Charles J.
DiBona
Energy
-Treasury Department role
-Morton
-White House role
-Economics
-7-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Politics
-Alaskan pipline, taxes, and Middle East
-Morton’s view
-Interior Department
-Elk Hills
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
-Elliot L. Richardson [?]
-Nuclear energy
-Organization
-Energy research group
-Funding
-Ash
-Energy message
-Funding
-President’s speech at Florida Technical Institute
-Distribution
-Massachusetts Institute of Technology [MIT], Stanford University,
University of Chicago, Florida Technical Institute
-Ash
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
Personnel appointments and management
-Importance of Shultz’s retention
-Harlow
-Laird
-Ash
-Shultz
-Relationship with John D. Ehrlichman and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Relationship with President
-Abilities
-National economy
-Herbert Stein
-Burns
-Federal Reserve
-Views on President’s program
-Price freeze
-Wages
-8-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
-Possible Congressional action on taxes
-President’s schedule
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Follow up meeting
-California
-Departure from Administration
-Haig
-Wage and price controls
-Ideological statement
-Burns
-President’s schedule
-Rest after Brezhnev’s visit
-Shultz meeting in California
-Date
-President’s persuasiveness
-Letter
National economy
-Burns
-Possible statements
-Views
-Gasoline price controls
-Relationship with Shultz
-International monetary issues
-President’s schedule
-Success in influencing policy
-Gold
-Gasoline prices
-Labor
-Labor negotiations
-Inflation
-International Brotherhood of Teamsters
-United Auto Workers [UAW]
-Wage formula
-Postal Service
-Shultz’s forthcoming activities
-9-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2012)
Conversation No. 941-2 (cont’d)
President’s schedule
-Conversation with Haig
Shultz’s schedule
-Tennis, golf
-Meany
President’s schedule
-Diplomatic credentials
-Brezhnev
-Shultz’s attendance at State Dinner
-Earl L. Butz
-Businessmen
Shultz left at an unknown time before 2:55 pm.