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- President Richard M. Nixon
- John D. Ehrlichman
- Stephen B. Bull
- Max M. Fisher
- Yitzhak Rabin
- Jeremiah Kaplan
- Herbert Stein
January 28, 1972
Conversation No. 659-6
Date: January 28, 1972
Time: 12:34 pm - 1:21 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman and Stephen B. Bull.
Presentation of Encyclopedia Judaica
-Ceremony
-Max M. Fisher
-Photograph session
-Yitzhak Rabin
Bull left at 12:35 pm.
School memorandum from the President
-Ehrlichman’s meeting with John N. Mitchell, Elliot L. Richardson and George P.
Shultz
-Timing
Fisher entered at 12:35 pm.
[Photograph session]
Introduction
22
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Encyclopedia Judaica
-Fisher inclusion
-Location
-Index
-Workmanship
Vietnam
-The President’s peace proposal speech, January 25, 1972
-Status of negotiations
-The President’s position
-Surrender
-Communist government in South Vietnam
-Resignation of Nguyen Van Thieu
Yitzhak Rabin, Chaim Herzog, Jeremiah Kaplan, Herbert Stein and Lawrence Y. Goldberg
entered at 12:37 pm; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.
Greetings and introductions
-Keter Publishing House
-MacMillan Company, Incorporated
Encyclopedia Judaica presentation
-Description of volumes
-Writing
-Publishing
-Scholarship
-Significance of work
-Reasons for writing
-Heritage, tradition, history, culture
-Liberty, equality
-Common heritage of Israel, US
-Role of US in Israeli history
-Peacemaking, defense
-Israel’s gratitude
-[Photograph session]
-US heritage
-Diversity
-US commitment to Israel
-Middle East peace
-Israel’s independence
23
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Presentation of bookmarks
-Presidential seal
-Stein
-Council of Economic Advisers [CEA]
-Preparation
-Time required
-The President’s travel experience
-Argentine Jews
-Appreciation
-Presentation to Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli [Pope John XXIII] and [Elizabeth, Queen
of England] Elizabeth II
-Unknown person
Maurice H. Stans
Fisher, et al., except Ehrlichman, left at 12:46 pm.
Ehrlichman’s schedule
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[Duration: 1m 54s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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Frederick R. Kappel Commission
-Appointment
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Reason
-Probe of executive, judicial, congressional salaries
-Administration position
-1972 election
-Possible commission
24
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Budget deficit
-Salary revision
-Post-election action
Congressional relations
-Cease and desist portion of Equal Employment Opportunity Commission [EEOC]
legislation
-H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s talk with Ehrlichman
-Position
-Veto
-Southern strategy
-Disposition of bill
-Peter H. Dominick amendment
-Court action
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.’s filibuster threat
-Rev. Theodore S. Hesburgh
-The President’s position
-Filibuster
-Clarity of position
-Constitutional amendment on busing
-The President’s memorandum
-Ehrlichman’s forthcoming conversation with Edward L. Morgan
-Legislation
-Need for action
-Leonard Garment
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Supreme Court
-Make-up
-Trust
-Effect
-Housing
-Schools
-Busing
-Offer
-Strategy session
-Camp David
Housing
-George W. Romney’s schedule
-Five city tour
-Message
25
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Central city problem
-Suburban housing
-Romney
-Recent meeting with Ehrlichman
-Political insensitivity
-Richard C. Van Dusen
-Romney’s possible goals
-Political
-Vice presidency
-Mayor of Detroit
-Personal
-Housing
-Jews
-Frank L. Rizzo’s election
-Jews and blacks
-Long Island problems
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Romney
-Racial impact of Romney’s action
-Political impact of Romney tour
-Romney
-Appointment difficulty
-As governor
-Van Dusen’s role
-Constitution
Busing
-The President’s memorandum on amendment
-Race
-Distribution
-Garment
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Dynamics of change
-History
-Abraham Lincoln
-Pragmatism
-Emancipation Proclamation
-Motivation
-Amnesty
-Motivation
-Cabinet
-Personality
26
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Union
-Strategy for change
-William T. Coleman, Jr. [?]
-Supreme Court
-Professionalism
-Prospective action
-Reason
-Legal basis of decision
-Racial mixing
-Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Herbert Brownell
-Brief
-Earl Warren
-Coleman
-Richard M. Scammon’s views
-Political orientation
-Racism
-Education
-Racism
-Housing
-Cities
-Colonialism
-Decision
-Prospects
-Influences
-Social factors, press
-Washington, DC
-Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
-Constitutional amendment
-Work program
-Mitchell, Richardson, Shultz
-Morgan’s role
-Legal assistants
-Political volatility
-Necessity for honesty
-Food stamps
-Completion of work
-Timing
-The President’s schedule
-Political events
27
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Forthcoming testimony by Mitchell, Richardson
-Emanuel Celler Committee
-Lincoln’s birthday
-The President’s schedule
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Ehrlichman’s schedule
-Housing
-Court action
-Feasibility
-Congressional action
-Unpredictability
-Amendment action
-Form
-Possible perception of administration
-White Paper publication
-Court decisions
-Facts
-Passions
-Results
-Method
-School financing
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Value Added Taxes [VAT]
-Money
-Equality of distribution
-Problems
-Need for totality
-Congressional leadership meeting
-Federal government promotions
-Race
-Shultz
-Gordon L. Allott
-Compared to television industry
-Allott
-Interior Department
-Race problems
-Romney’s reaction to talk with Ehrlichman
VAT
-Real estate taxes
-1972 campaign
28
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Details
-Advisory Commission on Intergovernmental Relations [ACIR] role
-Timing of possible action
-Republican Convention
-Election
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s feeling
-Ehrlichman’s feeling
-Bipartisan report
-Ehrlichman’s forthcoming conversation with John B. Connally
-Property taxes
-Tax reform
-Politics
-Media influence
-Congressional consultation
-State of the Union address
-Briefing
-Blue collar taxes
-Reaction
-Deficit
-As an issue
-Republican concern
-New taxes
-Reaction
-Deficits
-Political opponents
-Domestic and defense spending
-Inflation
-Relation to deficit spending
-Shultz’s chart
-Reaction of conservative Republicans
-Jobs
Bicentennial
-Philadelphia
-David J. Mahoney, Jr.’s role
-Model
-Funding
-Congressional appropriations
-Bicentennial parks
-Location
-States
29
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Use
-Shows, displays
-Permanence
-Benefits
-Public works
-Cost
-Federal land
-The President’s approval
-View of model
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB] consideration
-Location
-Funding
-Purpose
-Focus on Bicentennial
-Activities
-Year round use
-Problems
-Television
Forthcoming dinner [for DeWitt and Lila Wallace]
-Guests
-Magazine people
Postal subsidy
-Magazine postage
-Elmer T. (“Ted”) Klassen
-US Post Office
-Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
-Legislation’s prospects
-Administration support
-Lewis
Supersonic Transport [SST]
-Congressional enthusiasm
-William M. Magruder’s advice
-1972 election
-Magruder’s role
-Selling planes
-State Department role
-Stephen M. Boyd
-Public relations
30
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Strength as political issue
-Second term strategy
-Necessity of program
-Compared to moon mission
Ehrlichman’s schedule
-Denver visit
-Reason
-Children’s camp charity
-Weather
-Seattle
Ehrlichman left at 1:21 pm.
Date: January 28, 1972
Time: 12:34 pm - 1:21 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman and Stephen B. Bull.
Presentation of Encyclopedia Judaica
-Ceremony
-Max M. Fisher
-Photograph session
-Yitzhak Rabin
Bull left at 12:35 pm.
School memorandum from the President
-Ehrlichman’s meeting with John N. Mitchell, Elliot L. Richardson and George P.
Shultz
-Timing
Fisher entered at 12:35 pm.
[Photograph session]
Introduction
22
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Encyclopedia Judaica
-Fisher inclusion
-Location
-Index
-Workmanship
Vietnam
-The President’s peace proposal speech, January 25, 1972
-Status of negotiations
-The President’s position
-Surrender
-Communist government in South Vietnam
-Resignation of Nguyen Van Thieu
Yitzhak Rabin, Chaim Herzog, Jeremiah Kaplan, Herbert Stein and Lawrence Y. Goldberg
entered at 12:37 pm; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.
Greetings and introductions
-Keter Publishing House
-MacMillan Company, Incorporated
Encyclopedia Judaica presentation
-Description of volumes
-Writing
-Publishing
-Scholarship
-Significance of work
-Reasons for writing
-Heritage, tradition, history, culture
-Liberty, equality
-Common heritage of Israel, US
-Role of US in Israeli history
-Peacemaking, defense
-Israel’s gratitude
-[Photograph session]
-US heritage
-Diversity
-US commitment to Israel
-Middle East peace
-Israel’s independence
23
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Presentation of bookmarks
-Presidential seal
-Stein
-Council of Economic Advisers [CEA]
-Preparation
-Time required
-The President’s travel experience
-Argentine Jews
-Appreciation
-Presentation to Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli [Pope John XXIII] and [Elizabeth, Queen
of England] Elizabeth II
-Unknown person
Maurice H. Stans
Fisher, et al., except Ehrlichman, left at 12:46 pm.
Ehrlichman’s schedule
******************************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 54s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
******************************************************************************
Frederick R. Kappel Commission
-Appointment
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Reason
-Probe of executive, judicial, congressional salaries
-Administration position
-1972 election
-Possible commission
24
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Budget deficit
-Salary revision
-Post-election action
Congressional relations
-Cease and desist portion of Equal Employment Opportunity Commission [EEOC]
legislation
-H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s talk with Ehrlichman
-Position
-Veto
-Southern strategy
-Disposition of bill
-Peter H. Dominick amendment
-Court action
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.’s filibuster threat
-Rev. Theodore S. Hesburgh
-The President’s position
-Filibuster
-Clarity of position
-Constitutional amendment on busing
-The President’s memorandum
-Ehrlichman’s forthcoming conversation with Edward L. Morgan
-Legislation
-Need for action
-Leonard Garment
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Supreme Court
-Make-up
-Trust
-Effect
-Housing
-Schools
-Busing
-Offer
-Strategy session
-Camp David
Housing
-George W. Romney’s schedule
-Five city tour
-Message
25
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Central city problem
-Suburban housing
-Romney
-Recent meeting with Ehrlichman
-Political insensitivity
-Richard C. Van Dusen
-Romney’s possible goals
-Political
-Vice presidency
-Mayor of Detroit
-Personal
-Housing
-Jews
-Frank L. Rizzo’s election
-Jews and blacks
-Long Island problems
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Romney
-Racial impact of Romney’s action
-Political impact of Romney tour
-Romney
-Appointment difficulty
-As governor
-Van Dusen’s role
-Constitution
Busing
-The President’s memorandum on amendment
-Race
-Distribution
-Garment
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Dynamics of change
-History
-Abraham Lincoln
-Pragmatism
-Emancipation Proclamation
-Motivation
-Amnesty
-Motivation
-Cabinet
-Personality
26
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Union
-Strategy for change
-William T. Coleman, Jr. [?]
-Supreme Court
-Professionalism
-Prospective action
-Reason
-Legal basis of decision
-Racial mixing
-Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Herbert Brownell
-Brief
-Earl Warren
-Coleman
-Richard M. Scammon’s views
-Political orientation
-Racism
-Education
-Racism
-Housing
-Cities
-Colonialism
-Decision
-Prospects
-Influences
-Social factors, press
-Washington, DC
-Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
-Constitutional amendment
-Work program
-Mitchell, Richardson, Shultz
-Morgan’s role
-Legal assistants
-Political volatility
-Necessity for honesty
-Food stamps
-Completion of work
-Timing
-The President’s schedule
-Political events
27
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Forthcoming testimony by Mitchell, Richardson
-Emanuel Celler Committee
-Lincoln’s birthday
-The President’s schedule
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Ehrlichman’s schedule
-Housing
-Court action
-Feasibility
-Congressional action
-Unpredictability
-Amendment action
-Form
-Possible perception of administration
-White Paper publication
-Court decisions
-Facts
-Passions
-Results
-Method
-School financing
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Value Added Taxes [VAT]
-Money
-Equality of distribution
-Problems
-Need for totality
-Congressional leadership meeting
-Federal government promotions
-Race
-Shultz
-Gordon L. Allott
-Compared to television industry
-Allott
-Interior Department
-Race problems
-Romney’s reaction to talk with Ehrlichman
VAT
-Real estate taxes
-1972 campaign
28
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Details
-Advisory Commission on Intergovernmental Relations [ACIR] role
-Timing of possible action
-Republican Convention
-Election
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s feeling
-Ehrlichman’s feeling
-Bipartisan report
-Ehrlichman’s forthcoming conversation with John B. Connally
-Property taxes
-Tax reform
-Politics
-Media influence
-Congressional consultation
-State of the Union address
-Briefing
-Blue collar taxes
-Reaction
-Deficit
-As an issue
-Republican concern
-New taxes
-Reaction
-Deficits
-Political opponents
-Domestic and defense spending
-Inflation
-Relation to deficit spending
-Shultz’s chart
-Reaction of conservative Republicans
-Jobs
Bicentennial
-Philadelphia
-David J. Mahoney, Jr.’s role
-Model
-Funding
-Congressional appropriations
-Bicentennial parks
-Location
-States
29
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Use
-Shows, displays
-Permanence
-Benefits
-Public works
-Cost
-Federal land
-The President’s approval
-View of model
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB] consideration
-Location
-Funding
-Purpose
-Focus on Bicentennial
-Activities
-Year round use
-Problems
-Television
Forthcoming dinner [for DeWitt and Lila Wallace]
-Guests
-Magazine people
Postal subsidy
-Magazine postage
-Elmer T. (“Ted”) Klassen
-US Post Office
-Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
-Legislation’s prospects
-Administration support
-Lewis
Supersonic Transport [SST]
-Congressional enthusiasm
-William M. Magruder’s advice
-1972 election
-Magruder’s role
-Selling planes
-State Department role
-Stephen M. Boyd
-Public relations
30
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 659-6 (cont.)
-Strength as political issue
-Second term strategy
-Necessity of program
-Compared to moon mission
Ehrlichman’s schedule
-Denver visit
-Reason
-Children’s camp charity
-Weather
-Seattle
Ehrlichman left at 1:21 pm.
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